Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
I remember the info about an extra battle as coming from a quote from an interview with Jackson at a bookstore or something.
Hopefully, I've got it wrong.
I thought that was sort of a Stoors thing, it is only the murdering that is a little over the top!
Isn't that what happened to the 9 kings who turned into the Nazgul. I know they didn't have the ring of power, but had the 9 rings... and they just became enslaved to Sauron's will and turned into wraiths
Some folks do get p-ssed off over every little thing, don't they?
Dan
Appreciate you getting back, but this is a little third-hand at this point! I won't get excited until I hear something a little more definite (though you've got me worried). Of course if, as suggested above, it is just a portrayal of a battle only described in the third person previously, it is ok with me.
Sorry Dan, it is easy to feel sorry for Boromir, and Gollum as well. Denethor is harder, but I grudgingly can do it for him too. But feeling sorry for Saruman because he betrayed his maker and those he was supposed to protect is like feeling sorry for Lucifer. John Milton couldn't make me do it, and you can't do it either.
Picky, picky picky!
Yes that's right and I realized it right after I posted it.(Silly poster!) Of course it all would have melded into one big hunk of evil and it wouldn't matter if it were the ring, Sauron, or Aragorn. It's all really Melkor.
Happy now? Happy? Happy now?
Dan
Happy as the guest of honor at a celebrity roast with Wormtongue, Shgelob and a Balrog as roastmasters!
Poor Saruman! Once he left the straight-and-narrow, he just couldn't do anything right! :)
I don't worry too much about an "extra" battle scene, or other rearrangements in the script to make something work out better in Jackson's mind. After the first film, I trust him with a little license.
Before seeing the first film, all of us were fretting over every rumored disastrous change in the story line. This fretting for me continued through the first viewing of the film. That first time through I frowned nervously at every slight alteration to this story that we know, quote and revere to near biblical detail.
But after that first viewing, the fingers crossed-"Lord I hope they do this right" viewing, most of us were willing to accept Jackson telling the story his way. Many things were moved, omitted, or added to FoTR, and the story was not lost.
When we view TTT for the first time, most of us will be nervous again, but should fear less, and know that Jackson is going to tell the sotry his way, and that even the changes are not necessarily counter to our "faith". I at least, will be giving this second film more benefit of the doubt when I notice changes, and my blood pressure may only go up because it is finally here, not because of a panic that something has been misquoted.
Except that Melkor is no longer a personal presence in Arda, having been expelled into the outer dark. However, the discord which Melkor originally wove into the Ainulindalë continues to be manifest in Arda. So, in an impersonal way, one could say that it's all Melkor. Tolkien's myth does not have persistent, personally evil figures analogous to Satan. Melkor is pretty close, but he is dispatched well before the End, so he fails to map completely.
What Tolkien really gives us are series of "Satan figures." These guys keep coming to bad ends. Perhaps this is a deliberate attempt to avoid equating any being with Illuvatar, and thereby falling into dualism.
Oh, I agree that Melkor definitely got the ball rolling. What a loser.
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