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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The New Hobbit Hole

Concerning Hobbits

The New Hobbit Chronicles

This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.

In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:

Our discussion has been light:

It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog

However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB

Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr

Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog

Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB

Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed

To the very philosophical:

…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla

To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…

…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB

Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog

…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1

Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed

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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom

…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253

Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed

So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Chit/Chat; Poetry; TV/Movies; The Hobbit Hole
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To: Lil'freeper
*Harumph*
46,501 posted on 12/10/2002 6:14:13 AM PST by Lil'freeper
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To: 2Jedismom
LOL! Doesn't that take all. I'm going to go do some work now.
46,502 posted on 12/10/2002 6:14:47 AM PST by Lil'freeper
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To: Lil'freeper
So what is Bilbo's title and Job? That's the only one I don't have!!
46,503 posted on 12/10/2002 6:15:09 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
Dunno, I can't remember much from the Hobbit- have been too immersed in LoTR lately.
46,504 posted on 12/10/2002 6:17:20 AM PST by Lil'freeper
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To: Lil'freeper
THIEF!!

Whooohooo! I did it!
46,505 posted on 12/10/2002 6:17:50 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom; Lil'freeper
You are both thinking too literally...

His "job" for the dwarves....
46,506 posted on 12/10/2002 6:18:06 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Wasn't it be the thief.
46,507 posted on 12/10/2002 6:19:03 AM PST by carton253
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To: HairOfTheDog
Have you ever read the Unfinished Stories... where we have Thorin's take on Bilbo. Absolutely a riot! If they make the Hobbit into a film, then by all means, this part of the story has to be incorporated into the film.
46,508 posted on 12/10/2002 6:20:05 AM PST by carton253
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To: Corin Stormhands
Morning...grumble, grumble, grumble...

Crankiness at the Stormhands household this morning. Apparently it's my fault when other people don't get up on time, or take too long getting ready...

Going back to catch up now...

46,509 posted on 12/10/2002 6:22:43 AM PST by Corin Stormhands
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To: carton253
Thanks, Carton.

I didn't know breakfast was considered a shallow meal, since I rarely eat it, so the analogy confused me. What about 2nd breakfast? Just kidding :-)

I agree with most of what you say, except I doubt your personal understanding ever went to breakfast.

Right away after 9/11, I felt instinctively that Western Civilization was under attack, and the existence of nuclear weapons makes the danger mortal, IMO.

I never liked Tony Blair, as I saw him as part of the Left, which I believe he is, but he put his finger on the truth by saying publicly that 9/11 was an attack on Western Civilization. Lots of Europeans want to pretend to themselves that the attack is only on the U.S., when the reality is probably that the U.S. was attacked by Al Qaeda merely because we are the main fortress these days of the West.

Thanks for all your insights, Carton, they are really valuable and helpful, I am learning alot.
46,510 posted on 12/10/2002 6:24:34 AM PST by Sam Cree
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To: All
Take care, everyone, see you later.
46,511 posted on 12/10/2002 6:26:36 AM PST by Sam Cree
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To: g'nad; Corin Stormhands
Ruthy, I just can't picture you in bloody clothes and two weapons in the car...g'luck with the shoppin'...

She's going shoppin' two weeks before Christmas and you have a hard time imagining her in bloody clothes with weapons in the car?

good point...

LOL! You two are hilarious!!

I'm catching up on the posts now.

46,512 posted on 12/10/2002 6:27:37 AM PST by RMDupree
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
After nearly two years of charts, thermometers, graphs, temperatures, frustrations, and attempts...My Wife and I are now finally expecting our second child in August!!

Many congrats!

46,513 posted on 12/10/2002 6:28:22 AM PST by Corin Stormhands
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To: Sam Cree
It isn't the breakfast that's shallow... it's the time span. When Bibi said that phrase, it was 10:30... so, he was saying that they understand history as far back as breakfast... You should have seen Russert's face... it was priceless.

Actually, when those towers came down, I knew that I would never be the same.

And your analysis of Tony Blair and Europe are spot on!

Have a great day...

46,514 posted on 12/10/2002 6:28:43 AM PST by carton253
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To: HairOfTheDog; JenB; ItsOurTimeNow
you know... having to get up to pee all the time watching the movie!

You don't have to be pg for that. First time we saw FOTR, Jr. wanted the jumbo drink...second time he got a medium...third time he said "I'm not thirsty..."

46,515 posted on 12/10/2002 6:29:50 AM PST by Corin Stormhands
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
My Wife and I are now finally expecting our second child in August!!

How wonderful! Congratulations Seamus!

You Hamfists are going to take up all of the Shire if you keep this up!

46,516 posted on 12/10/2002 6:32:25 AM PST by RMDupree
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To: Corin Stormhands
Looks like with the spamming and crosswords I didn't have too far to catch up. I'm here but busy today...
46,517 posted on 12/10/2002 6:35:01 AM PST by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands; HairOfTheDog; 2Jedismom; RosieCotton; Sam Cree; ItsOurTimeNow; ksen; carton253; ..
OK, I'm all caught up and ready to serve breakfast.

Waffles and toast, along with bacon and sausage. Scrambled eggs with cheese & sauteed mushrooms. Plenty of strong coffee, of course and fresh orange juice. ENJOY!

We had a heckuva storm come through here last night. It's still kind of dreary outside, but at least it keeps the temps down to a comfortable level. Otherwise, the humidity would be horrible!

46,518 posted on 12/10/2002 6:39:34 AM PST by RMDupree
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To: Corin Stormhands
Isn't g'nad's wife expecting too? What is it with you dwarves lately???

LOL
46,519 posted on 12/10/2002 6:43:46 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: Corin Stormhands
Apparently it's my fault when other people don't get up on time, or take too long getting ready...

of course... what else d'yuh expect...

46,520 posted on 12/10/2002 6:44:10 AM PST by g'nad
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