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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The New Hobbit Hole

Concerning Hobbits

The New Hobbit Chronicles

This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.

In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:

Our discussion has been light:

It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog

However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB

Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr

Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog

Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB

Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed

To the very philosophical:

…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla

To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…

…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB

Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog

…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1

Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed

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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom

…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253

Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed

So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Chit/Chat; Poetry; TV/Movies; The Hobbit Hole
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To: Lil'freeper
*sigh*


45,701 posted on 12/05/2002 2:32:11 PM PST by Lil'freeper
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To: Lil'freeper
*tap*tap*tap*

Am I logged in?

45,702 posted on 12/05/2002 2:36:00 PM PST by Lil'freeper
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To: Lil'freeper
Lil Spammer has been added to the key words.

;-)
45,703 posted on 12/05/2002 2:40:33 PM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
Hehe - good for him!

Look what I just ran across! Is this wrong or what?

Comic

45,704 posted on 12/05/2002 2:45:11 PM PST by JenB
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To: 2Jedismom
Aw shucks
45,705 posted on 12/05/2002 2:46:55 PM PST by Lil'freeper
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To: JenB
So we have the original Rudolf...and what? Drew Barrymore's PC Rudolf (Olive?) and now this? LOTR Rudolf.

Personally, I like the idea better than Drew Barrymore's!
45,706 posted on 12/05/2002 2:51:10 PM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
That comic strip is a favorite of mine anyway!

I'm gonna kill my brothers. Running around my room, jumping on my bed, playing guitar to annoy me. Grrr.
45,707 posted on 12/05/2002 3:56:45 PM PST by JenB
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To: HairOfTheDog
Oh, thank you! Now if I can find time to make a nice wallpaper out of these...
45,708 posted on 12/05/2002 3:59:31 PM PST by ecurbh
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To: RosieCotton
Have you heard the Riders of Rohan on the soundtrack? The violin?

I stood in the livingroom transfixed when I heard it. The hair on my neck stood up.
45,709 posted on 12/05/2002 4:55:09 PM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: RosieCotton
I guess I should say the hair on the back of my neck stood up. I'm no dwarf. No hair all over my neck! LOL
45,710 posted on 12/05/2002 4:59:36 PM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: RosieCotton
Not that there is anything wrong with having hair all over one's neck...or one's feet for that matter.
45,711 posted on 12/05/2002 5:09:52 PM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: ecurbh
I finally have the chance to sit down and listen to the whole music. Steve took the boys to play chess.
45,712 posted on 12/05/2002 5:11:41 PM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: ecurbh
I don't remember the last time I had a funkle...
45,713 posted on 12/05/2002 5:15:03 PM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: Lil'freeper
Two in a row! Congratulations!
45,714 posted on 12/05/2002 5:28:47 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: JenB
Look what I just ran across!

That was pretty funny!

45,715 posted on 12/05/2002 5:30:37 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: g'nad
Sorry I missed you during the day... it's good to see you back!
45,716 posted on 12/05/2002 5:38:17 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
You Shall Not Funkle!!
45,717 posted on 12/05/2002 5:39:27 PM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: Lil'freeper
Who said nothing good ever happened in the 70's? I was born! *blink*

Me too! I'm a BiCentenial Boy!

45,718 posted on 12/05/2002 5:40:20 PM PST by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: 2Jedismom
Did you enjoy Gollum's Song once you had a chance to really listen to it?

It still makes me weepy, no matter how often I listen to it.
45,719 posted on 12/05/2002 5:43:41 PM PST by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
*whistles Yankee Doodle*

Good night all. See ya manana.

45,720 posted on 12/05/2002 5:43:52 PM PST by Lil'freeper
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