The New Hobbit Hole

[John Farson]

Speaking against war is actively discouraged here, so I'll just say this:

"America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy."
--John Quincy Adams,
speech on July 4, 1821

"We were then in a condition which secured to us the respect and envy of the civilized world. The quarrels which other nations have we did not have. The sun did set on our dominions and our drum-beat did not encircle the world with our martial airs. Our guns were not likely to be called upon to throw projectiles which cost, each of them, the price of a happy home, nor did any bombardment seem likely to cost us the price of a village."
--Thomas Brackett Reed,
_The Life of Thomas Brackett Reed_ by Samuel W. McCall p. 254 (1914)

Well, it's none of our concern what goes on beyond our borders. Keep your nose out of trouble and no trouble will come to you.

[carton253]

Yes... Smeagol tried to hold Gollum back, but when no one was going for the precious... and it was just sitting there staring at him for the better part of 5 minutes, Gollum typed mine!

Smeagol struggled and struggled, but Gollum hit post. Smeagol didn't spam though.

[HairOfTheDog]

I am glad to hear about your fight against this Precious phenomena... Just imagine how beautiful and clean the new thread would be if all could be cured of this demon!

Brings a tear to my eye to imagine it...

[carton253]

Last time I looked, they were crashing planes into our buildings. I'm not looking for war, but war has come to us. Now, we can either fight, or we can sit back and be destroyed.

I have chosen to fight.

[JenB]

I read something last year that the Orcs were twisted creatures that hated life -- and didn't have a strong will to live.

That makes sense. What makes a bit more sense, perhaps is to realize that the Orcs are corruptions of life, not an original creation. Who is it who give a creature the will to live? Surely it is the same One who gives life in the first place. Twisting that gift of life to hideous ends - who knows what will become of the side issues.

So what I'm saying is that maybe it's not that Orcs hate their existance, though I am sure they do, but that Creation and all created being loathe Orcs and therefore the world is a far more inherently hostile place to an Orc than it is to a Human or an Elf. This is my Father's world; and He probably doesn't like people messing it up.

[carton253]

Yes... but half the fun would be gone.

[rightwingreligiousfanatic]

I'm thinking of joining a twelve step program. :)

I can highly recommend Betty Ford's (good Republican) clinic for spamaholism. A two to three week stay was all it took for me.....8^) <------(my new bi-focal smily)

[g'nad]

I never keep the rounds for my CCW more than a year... that may be overly pessimistic of me, but I figure, if I need, I need it...my CCW is a ParaOrdnance P-12.45... I carry a mix of Glaser Safety Slugs (awesome) and Remington Golden Sabres...

Good choice in handguns, ma'am

In .38, I'd invest in CorBon .38 Spl+P+/110gr JHP ... and or Glaser .38 Spl+P/80gr

In .357, the 158grSJHP are solid performers... that's what Mrs. g uses... along with glasers...

One piece of advice on the .357... take it to an abandoned shack or cabin at night, and touch off a round... get you acquainted with the concusion and blinding effect of a .357 in a closed space at nite... but use hearing protection... no need to go deaf needlessly...

[John Farson]

Last time I looked, they were crashing planes into our buildings.

Who is 'they'? And have you asked yourself why?

. I'm not looking for war, but war has come to us. Now, we can either fight, or we can sit back and be destroyed.

Show me evidence of Iraqi involvement in 9/11.

I'm not a pacifist. I think action in Afghanistan was justified. However, I think a war to end all terror is foolhardy. The goals are too broad and we are setting ourselves up for a state of perpetual war. :-(

[ksen]

Should this country go down the tubes I move that we all pack up and head out to Hair's place and set up our own little country called: The Shire.

G'nad can be in charge of our military, RM can be in charge of the kitchen, 2J can run the school, Jen can be our resident Middle-Earth historian, I'll go ahead and set up a church for those who want one, RWRF can be in charge of our banking system, Hair can watch over our animals, Corin can be our PR guy, carton can be in charge of our foreign policy, Sam can fish, OT can be our resident mad scientist (maybe we can even build her a little tower), Rosie can be in charge of entertainment, Bear can be the network administrator, and everyone else can find a niche they would like to fill, and fill it.

My apologies if I have missed anyone.....

[rightwingreligiousfanatic]

Just imagine how beautiful and clean the new thread would be if all could be cured of this demon!

I have caught the vision, and it is lovely indeed! But I fear the others will not. How can we appeal to them?

[John Farson]

I'd love to know who originally came upon that theory. I was hoping it came from one of Tolkien's letters...

[rightwingreligiousfanatic]

carton can be Central Intelligence Director.... I'm ready to go, right now. Seriously, I would contemplate such a thing if events warrant....

[JenB]

Wouldn't that be fun! And since historian is not a full time job (though one I would truly enjoy) I could help Bear keep the computers running.

However I am not sure Hair is far enough away from California to be safe.

[g'nad]

Should this country go down the tubes I move that we all pack up and head out to Hair's place and set up our own little country called: The Shire.

I just closed on a hundred acre spread in Southern Missouri...beautiful country... there's about 3,000 acres of timber around it with parcels for sale... I wouldn't mind anchoring a Shire enclave...

[JenB]

I may have come from the Letters. I have a head cold today and my brain is fuzzy so I can't say for certain but it certainly fits.

[rightwingreligiousfanatic]

...there's about 3,000 acres of timber around it with parcels for sale

Any lakes or rivers?

I gotta bring my kayak and canoe....

[g'nad]

yup all kids... it's in NE Laclede County, just outside Lebanon...

[ksen]

We could become like Switzerland. A little country that nobody messes with......

[Overtaxed]

Should this country go down the tubes I move that we all pack up and head out to Hair's place and set up our own little country called: The Shire

She'll just call the cops every time we do a little target shootin'!

Just joking,Hair.