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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The New Hobbit Hole

Concerning Hobbits

The New Hobbit Chronicles

This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.

In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:

Our discussion has been light:

It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog

However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB

Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr

Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog

Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB

Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed

To the very philosophical:

…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla

To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…

…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB

Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog

…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1

Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed

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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom

…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253

Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed

So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Chit/Chat; Poetry; TV/Movies; The Hobbit Hole
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To: carton253
That's interesting, I did not know that. How long did you live there?
39,721 posted on 11/08/2002 8:37:20 AM PST by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: ItsOurTimeNow; angelo
There are a lot of versions of the rings out there... these are the cheapest I have seen... But I have seen others for $100, $200 up to $500 for jeweler-quality. I think there are many folk making them, of varying quality. These are probably meant to be kindof fun cheap replicas for folk that are not obsesses AND rich!
39,722 posted on 11/08/2002 8:41:33 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
I lived there for 2 months in 1994... (right before Oslo went into effect) I was in East Jerusalem... 1/4 mile from the Garden Tomb/Calvary and 1/2 mile from the Old City (entering by the Damascus Gate)

Hopefully, if my grades hold up, I might try to see if I can get a scholarship to attend the Hebrew Union College on Mt. Scopus in Jerusalem. Maybe get a master's degree there. Of course, that is long term planning that might not work out.

39,723 posted on 11/08/2002 8:47:12 AM PST by carton253
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To: HairOfTheDog
Or ARE obssessed and NOT rich. ;^)
39,724 posted on 11/08/2002 8:49:39 AM PST by ksen
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To: carton253
I definitely want to go there sometime. It's high on my list, but a little tricky with family/terrorism concerns....
39,725 posted on 11/08/2002 8:50:09 AM PST by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: carton253; HairOfTheDog; rightwingreligiousfanatic; angelo; Corin Stormhands; RosieCotton; ...

LOTT WILL KEEP DEMOCRATS AS COMMITTEE CHAIRMEN [Rumor]

39,726 posted on 11/08/2002 8:53:19 AM PST by ksen
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To: ksen
That had better no be true!
39,727 posted on 11/08/2002 8:54:29 AM PST by carton253
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic; ksen; carton253
"Peace Like a River"

When we were in college, my wife did a short term missions project to teach English in Japan. She played piano for the Japanese church there. They wrote the hymn numbers down with their English titles (she played while they sang in Japanese). One night (I am not making this up), she got the list...#43 "Peace Like a Liver."

Shall we all stand and sing? It Is Well With My Soul

39,728 posted on 11/08/2002 8:54:56 AM PST by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands
LOL!
When Peace Like a Liver,
With Onions on my plate,
When dinner is served,
You have taught me to say,
Bring the Rolaids, Bring the Rolaids, or I'll puke.
39,729 posted on 11/08/2002 9:08:06 AM PST by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: ksen
Only during the lame duck session. But still.... Ack indeed!
39,730 posted on 11/08/2002 9:10:44 AM PST by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: ksen
Or ARE obssessed and NOT rich. ;^)

Funny.... That is what I meant to say in the first place!

39,731 posted on 11/08/2002 9:13:47 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
That is what I meant to say in the first place!

yourequitewelcome!

39,732 posted on 11/08/2002 9:19:55 AM PST by ksen
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic; ksen
Got more scoop on the Lott thing. He doesn't like Lame Duck sessions since they do more harm than good (pork, etc). So he just wants to get in and get out and start again in January. Okay... I'll go along.

But no to a Lott Majority Leader. Give me Inhoffe or Frist or John Kyl (I didn't spell it right).

We need someone who doesn't apologize for being a Repubican.

39,733 posted on 11/08/2002 9:24:32 AM PST by carton253
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To: carton253; ksen
Yeah, I'm not a huge Lott fan either, but we won't have much choice, do we? I haven't heard any serious talk of replacing him...
39,734 posted on 11/08/2002 9:30:04 AM PST by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
There has been a rumor of two of Inhoffe running for the position. I hope so!
39,735 posted on 11/08/2002 9:35:13 AM PST by carton253
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Threadkiller bump.
39,736 posted on 11/08/2002 10:55:42 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
OT, did you see that somebody killed that squirrel in Knutsford?
39,737 posted on 11/08/2002 10:58:49 AM PST by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: Overtaxed
Here
39,738 posted on 11/08/2002 11:00:39 AM PST by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
No I didn't. Lousy varmint!

In other news, a ballot recount gives the NC House to the Pubbies. WooHoo!!

39,739 posted on 11/08/2002 11:01:34 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
All Right!

More fodder for Gloating!


39,740 posted on 11/08/2002 11:04:15 AM PST by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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