The New Hobbit Hole

[HairOfTheDog]

Welcome to The New Hobbit Hole
Concerning Hobbits
The New Hobbit Chronicles

This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.

In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:

Our discussion has been light:

It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog

However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB

Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr

Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog

Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB

Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed

To the very philosophical:

…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla

To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…

…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB

Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog

…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1

Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed

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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom

…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253

Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed

So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

Yes, we have digital here too... ours goes up to a week in advance. But it doesn't show the program description for next week's show, so I don't know if it is the LOTR episode or not... the one shown this week was not, so it is probably next week.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

When do we get to hear the next part of your story?

I dunno... haven't written anything since Sunday. Maybe I'll be able to do some this coming weekend!

What happens next?

He gets called in by the Admiral and assigned to captain the most important test flight in the history of human spaceflight. But it fails, after a fashion.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

Good night all....

[Sam Cree]

Good night you guys,

I'm going to watch some of the movie, then sleep...hope TT comes out good too, I suppose it will.

I hope you guys all keep writing, as I am now stuck on all the stories and like them better than what books are for sale in the store.

[HairOfTheDog]

...hope TT comes out good too

I dunno... I am not thinking much about it! Heh.

[2Jedismom]

Well, I opted for a long hot soak and reading before popping the corn. Just as I got it popped, Matthew came in from chess club and we had a nice time sitting on the couch snacking on it. First thing he asked me was if I put plenty of butter on it! LOL (Steve bought 18 pounds of it the other day and impressed Matthew somewhat!)

Now I'm just hanging around, reading the latest posts. You've got the cockfighting thread quite stirred up! LOL

[Corin Stormhands]

Good morning sleepyheads!

I wrote about 100 words last night before deciding I just couldn't keep my eyes open. We'll see how we do this weekend.

My wife and little one are on their way to North Carolina this a.m. Jr. and I are going tonight. We know this is the trip to say "goodbye."

I'll be around some today, not sure how much. Depends on whether I can concentrate on work.

Whats for breakfast?

[Overtaxed]

Good Morning!

Won't be around this morning....Lotus Notes training. (Whoopee)

Where's RMDupree and the bacon biscuits?

[JenB]

Checking in before work - Corin, I'll be praying for you and your family. Keep safe and we'll be waiting for you when you come back.

[HairOfTheDog]

Hullo! - Only a few hobbits up yet this morning! - It is early here.... 5:36, and I don't really have to be up. I am still debating it.

Will be thinking about you this weekend. I hope the goodbye trip goes as well as it can for Mrs. Stormhands... and for you.

[ksen]

Rosie, I've caught up on your story. I think it is really good so far. I would just ask that you put a line or something in when you transition from one scene to another. I got a little confused when you transitioned from Drew to Keith.

All I can say is: No crap there so far.

I can't wait to find out who these people are, and what the pieces of stone will do when they are put together.

[ksen]

Have a safe trip Corin. I know Gandalf advised to keep of the road as much as possible, but in this case you need speed more than stealth.

So drive carefully. We'll hold down the fort and the Precious until you get back.

[ksen]

Jen, I have your story site bookmarked in my favorites (with everyone else's) and will catch up with it tonight.

I can't wait to see where you've taken the group since I left them last. I think Gil was trying not to sneeze the last time I checked in on them.

[ksen]

It's the Friday before SE Day. Go back to bed Hair, the ponies will be fine for a bit longer.

[ksen]

How was class last night? Wasn't this the liberal professor? Was he a bit depressed after Tuesday? hehheh. ;^)

[ksen]

Ok, ok, I can take a hint.......

[HairOfTheDog]

Too late! - I have already had a couple cups of coffee! I am stuck with being up now!

It's the Friday before SE Day

Fetch me 2J's meds!

[Mad Dawgg]

Good Morning Hobbits,

Life is good here in the USA (after the election) and I am waiting with baited breath for TTT!

Just wanted to remind you all that "Firefly" is on this evening on FOX at 8pm Eastern. Check your local listings!

Remember "Friends don't let Friends miss Firefly!

BTW anyone got the New FOTR DVD yet?

I can't wait for mine!

[HairOfTheDog]

Morning breath funkling?

[HairOfTheDog]

I did not pre-order it.... I will be going to the store when they open Tuesday! I did hear someone say they received notification that theirs had been shipped via ground.