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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The New Hobbit Hole

Concerning Hobbits

The New Hobbit Chronicles

This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.

In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:

Our discussion has been light:

It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog

However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB

Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr

Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog

Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB

Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed

To the very philosophical:

…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla

To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…

…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB

Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog

…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1

Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed

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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom

…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253

Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed

So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.


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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Analytic chemist. Most of my experience is in Environmental and Agrochemical industry although I have a little experience in pharmaceutical industry (really...how hard is it to dissolve a pill and shoot it on an LC?)
38,741 posted on 11/03/2002 11:07:03 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed; 2Jedismom; ItsOurTimeNow; ecurbh; RosieCotton
Don't you think it is funny that we were all in the chat room because FR was down, but then when FR came back up no one posted much in here?

We just feel better knowing it is here? - And it drives us crazy if it is not, even if we don't have much to say?
38,742 posted on 11/03/2002 12:06:06 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Penny1; Scott from the Left Coast; Ramius

A Special Benefit Screening for
The Cascades Conservation Partnership

Monday, December 16th, 2002

5:00 PM
VIP Cocktail Party

Catered by Tom Douglas
The Blue Peacock Lounge & Spiegeltent
Home of Teatro ZinZanni
2301 Sixth Avenue, Seattle

7:30 PM
Screening

Cinerama Theater
2100 Fourth Avenue, Seattle


$500.00
includes admission to VIP party and screening with priority seating, parking and special gifts
($440 Tax Deductible)

$250.00
includes admission to screening and special gifts
($240 Tax Deductible)


[sigh]

Now... As you know land conservation through private buyout of land someone wishes to be protected is a cause I can support. These folk even speak on their website of trails for public use as part of their mission, so I like them even more if they don't feel they have to keep people out of the woods to protect the woods.

On the morning of the 16th, HOW MUCH would I pay for the chance to see it two days before everyone else? $250? Who much would you pay Penny?

38,743 posted on 11/03/2002 12:26:50 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Er.... Who How much would you pay, Penny?
38,744 posted on 11/03/2002 12:28:44 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Steve should be home any minute so I'm logging off for the day. See you all maybe late this evening.
38,745 posted on 11/03/2002 12:40:52 PM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
OK 2J! - See ya later! I am finishing my re-org of the room and doing laundry!
38,746 posted on 11/03/2002 12:42:57 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
but then when FR came back up no one posted much in here?

I just got back on the computer after this morning, so I hadn't noticed it was back up; sure am glad it is, though!

After our pancakes & sausage, I had several errands to run. I finally got a GREAT double griddle for the stovetop. It is a Calphalon, and I normally wouldn't pay what they want for it, but I had a 20% off coupon, and it is the ONLY griddle that will FIT on my stovetop. Instead of the handles coming out parallel to the cooking surface, this pan has slightly raised edges and the handles come UP, perpendicular to the surface. It is even oven safe, so I'm gonna use it when I want to roast turkey, ham and chicken. They will be much easier to get out of the oven with the upright handles on the pan. But I'm sure going to enjoy doing the usual pancakes, french toast, etc. on it!

So to make a short story long, I'm just now getting on FR, but will have to get off in a little bit to head to Mass then Confirmation class. I'll make my way through the posts now!

38,747 posted on 11/03/2002 1:25:10 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
I'll make my way through the posts now!

LOL!! Well, THAT was quick!!

38,748 posted on 11/03/2002 1:26:53 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
Told ya!
38,749 posted on 11/03/2002 1:29:08 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: SuziQ; Ramius
By the way.... I ordered my elven leaf clasp for the cloak from:

(I still can't get over the idea that there is a site called TOLKIEN TOWN ;~D) LOL! It cracks me up.

:~D Should arrive in 2-5 days!


Click here for enlarged photo

38,750 posted on 11/03/2002 1:40:32 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
I am soooo envious!

Steve took the boys to choir and I am relaxing alone for a couple of hours!!

My mom bought me a Salton Espresso maker years ago and it came with a video and manual on how to use it and I can't find either! I swear, I've had it for 10 years at least. Now I want some espresso and I have no clue how to use it. I'm looking them up on the web. They were based in Mt Prospect, IL.
38,751 posted on 11/03/2002 2:57:09 PM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
I'm going up in the attic to see if I can find the video tape. Likely be in terrible shape.
38,752 posted on 11/03/2002 3:02:29 PM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
Hmmm....a tea break would be nice right now. And the instructions are easier.
38,753 posted on 11/03/2002 3:09:50 PM PST by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
Well, here I go. I'm heading up to the attic. God help me. I'm terrified of spiders and if one gets on me I'm liable to have a ring-tailed rigor.
38,754 posted on 11/03/2002 3:18:20 PM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
Use the Lady's phial!
38,755 posted on 11/03/2002 3:19:31 PM PST by Overtaxed
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To: g'nad; Corin Stormhands; rightwingreligiousfanatic; All
Hey all you Dwarves out there...

I received a catalog with a lot of LOTR stuff in it, including the items below, but our scanner isn't hooked up so I had no way to post pictures. But then Hair posted her link to TolkienTown.com (above) and I went looking and found these:

Gimli's axe

And, for you Dwarves seduced by the power of Mordor...

Dwarven Ring of Power

Apologies if these have been posted before!

38,756 posted on 11/03/2002 3:23:03 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear; Overtaxed
Cool stuff!

Well, I didn't find what I was looking for and I started getting an allergy from the dust, so I'm going to shop to look around out there.
38,757 posted on 11/03/2002 3:48:14 PM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
I know how to make espresso in most makers.... what kind? - can you find a picture of it?

It is the Electric pressurized steam kind or the kind that looks like a small perk coffee pot?
38,758 posted on 11/03/2002 3:52:33 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
I don't think they have been posted!

Does the name TolkienTown crack anyone else up?

It reminds me of "WallyWorld" or something.
38,759 posted on 11/03/2002 3:55:54 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Looks kinda like this

It has a 4 cup marker on the side (I'm assuming demitasse because there's no way it's four regular size cups)

38,760 posted on 11/03/2002 3:56:04 PM PST by 2Jedismom
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