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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: 2Jedismom
And now it's killed the thread...
36,281 posted on 10/22/2002 5:42:54 PM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
Oh no.... you and your white space didn't kill the thread... It had died nearly two hours earlier with my last post!

Good evening!
36,282 posted on 10/22/2002 5:49:43 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
And then one day, the hobbits found that they had absolutely nothing else to say. So they went inside, and took a nap.
36,283 posted on 10/22/2002 5:51:31 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Overtaxed
Ok, might as well go for a funkle.

I got that new Feadóg! It's really nice! The tone is much like my Mach 3, but it is fancier to look at than my current plain one. It seems softer, too. Very nice! I really like it and it has worn areas around the finger holes, so Bloomfield must have liked it too. It sounds much better than the Mach 2.

I'll post a picture of my whistles some time or other.
36,284 posted on 10/22/2002 5:54:01 PM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: HairOfTheDog
I'm here! Steve is at school, but should be in early. I just had to get the boys bathed and in to bed.
36,285 posted on 10/22/2002 6:10:55 PM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom; All
Another Feadog? :)

Anyway.....I was looking in Letters for something about lembas and looky what I found:

207 From a letter to Rayner Unwin 8 April 1958

[Negotiations were proceeding with the American film company. The synopsis of the proposed film of The Lord of the Rings was the work of Morton Grady Zimmerman]

Zimmerman - 'Story-Line'

Of course, I will get busy on this at once, now that Easter is over, and the Dutch incense is dissipated. Thank you for the copy of the Story-Line, which I will go through again.

I am entirely ignorant of the process of producing an 'animated picture' from a book, and of the jargon connected with it. Could you let me know exactly what is a 'story-line', and its function in the process?

It is not necessary (or advisable) for me to waste time on mere expressions if these are simply directions to picture-producers. But this document, as it stands, is sufficient to give me grave anxiety about the actual dialogue that (I suppose) will be used. I should say Zimmerman, the constructor of this s-l, is quite incapable of excerpting or adapting the 'spoken words' of the book. He is hasty, insensitive, and impertinent.

He does not read books. It seems to me evident that he has skimmed through the L.R. at a great pace, and then constructed his s.l. from partly confused memories, and with the minimum of references back to the original. Thus he gets most of the names wrong in form - not occaisionally by casual error but fixedly (always Borimor for Boromir); or he misapplies them: Radagast becomes an Eagle. The introduction of characters and the indications of what they are to say have little or no reference to the book. Bombadil comes in with 'a gentle laugh'!....

I feel very unhappy about the extreme silliness and incompetence of Z and his complete lack of respect for the original (it seems wilfully wrong without discernible technical reasons at nearly every point). But I need, and shall soon need very much indeed, money, and I am conscious of your rights and interests; so that I shall endeavour to restrain myself, and avoid all avoidable offence. I will send you my remarks, particular and general, as soon as I can; and of course nothing will go to Ackerman [Forrest J. Ackerman, agent for the film company] except through you and with at least your assent.


36,286 posted on 10/22/2002 6:34:06 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: 2Jedismom
Hullo!.... I have been sitting here gaping at the theories over on the news side. And the unabashed certainty that they are absolutely correct! - We don't need no stinking facts! - We have it all figured out! I have felt the temptation .... but I have so far resisted.
36,287 posted on 10/22/2002 6:35:45 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Overtaxed
I will send you my remarks, particular and general, as soon as I can; and of course nothing will go to Ackerman [Forrest J. Ackerman, agent for the film company] except through you and with at least your assent.

Heh.... well, I don't think it got made, so it looks like either the criticisms were too harsh, or by good fortune he started making some money and didn't need to sell out. [whew!]

36,288 posted on 10/22/2002 6:40:25 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Hehehe....in Letter 202 he says: "Stanley U. & I have agreed on our policy: Art or Cash. Either very profitable terms indeed; or absolute author's veto on objectionable features or alterations."

Guess they couldn't come up with enough dough!

36,289 posted on 10/22/2002 6:46:51 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
Art or Cash

Dang.... had he hung on with the longevity of Bilbo.... He could have had both... What a choice at the time!

36,290 posted on 10/22/2002 6:51:33 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Overtaxed
Evening! Choir practice was fairly good, now I'm on for a bit before bed. How are you?
36,291 posted on 10/22/2002 6:52:16 PM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB
I'm just about ready for bed myself.
36,292 posted on 10/22/2002 6:55:24 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: JenB
Hullo Jen!

there is more than one whacko in our midst.

Attack wounds 9-year-old at football practice (Pittsburgh)

36,293 posted on 10/22/2002 6:58:31 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Oh, great...
36,294 posted on 10/22/2002 6:59:39 PM PDT by JenB
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To: RosieCotton
Maybe I can bring some to Entmoot.

Please do! Especially since you said that they 'travel' well!

36,295 posted on 10/22/2002 7:07:30 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: 2Jedismom
I'm going to bake some of my lemon Pledge cookies right now!

EWWW! Won't they be 'greasy'?

36,296 posted on 10/22/2002 7:09:40 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: JenB
Yeah. Great.
36,297 posted on 10/22/2002 7:10:27 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: SuziQ; 2Jedismom
Lemon pledge cookies sound odd... Pledge like furniture polish?
36,298 posted on 10/22/2002 7:10:41 PM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB
Here comes SuziQ - working her way through the Lembas posts!
36,299 posted on 10/22/2002 7:11:14 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
What's with the world, huh? I've decided not to be meek; I'd rather not inherit the earth.
36,300 posted on 10/22/2002 7:11:23 PM PDT by JenB
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