Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.
In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:
Our discussion has been light:
It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog
However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB
Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr
Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog
Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB
Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed
To the very philosophical:
…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla
To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…
…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB
Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog
…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1
Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed
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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom
…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253
Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed
So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.
Ruh roh.... looks like we have another shooting in VA. We didn't get our guy this afternoon like we hoped.
Maybe we could find one that had some meeting rooms. We wouldn't need a huge one, and maybe they'd have a big TV and DVD player. Yeah, that's the ticket! We could watch the movie while we're snacking, then visit and play whistles, mandolins, etc!
It could be our base of operations to go out and see RoTK; Disney, Canaveral, Sea World, all those places!
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In an interview Aragorn actor Viggo Mortensen tells difficult handling fans about his artistic passions beyond the playthingplaything plaything and -- laboriously translates of Anniki.
Viggo Mortensen is a singular person. Not only that the man a turning plan has, most actors to it to bring Koffeinpillen (or worse) would take, it deepens also in such a way into its other inclinations -- poetry, painting, photography, politics, music and more -- like it it also in its roles does... As the legendary reports of Mortensens devotion at the set of the film MR. THE RINGS, where the rumor went around the fact that Viggo prefers it in the forest in its Aragorn costume to run around in its role to over really sink -- should cause also his decided loyalty and continuous Miteinbeziehung into of Los Angeles of other art scenes your respect. Before the world played moved over Mortensens entered into the Tolkiens canon, had itself Viggo already deeply into the art scene embedded. Particularly by its poems (of 1993 "Ten load Nigth" to today "Concidence OF MEMORY"), its painting and photography (some galleries place its works out) his sprachaufnahmen and readings as for example with its ex woman (a Punk icon), Buckethead, Jerry steel and Karen Finley, and many different. Thus it did not only come the Viggo a reading into Santa Monicas of inestimable and nevertheless independent bookshop, "Midnight Special" held, which admits only recently gave that she cannot afford longer the up-snapping rents of the promenade determined by chain shops, but gave also Morphizm an interview. All this, after he had flown in the morning before it to few hours to the city, freezing and exhausts from its trick in Montana. It was not a surprise that Viggo came barefoot and with langaermeligen things from the "American Indian Movement" and was jubilant taken up by the quantity, before he publishes few its poems from its new collection "Concidence an OF MEMORY", at the equally independent Perceval press read out. And although both, Viggo and Percevals Herausgeberin, Pilar Perez, had planned, to keep that did not stop the schedule the untiring "Renaissance" man everyone of its fans the attention to admit, about which they dreamed. It vibrated its hands, posierte for innumerable photographs and reads some even its naked feet photographs. That is the reason why I tiredly for hours behind it -- there our interview was pushed out, I placed itself forwards I helped the peace of the ehrfuerchtigen "Midnight Special" to keep upright -- I sat not or weighted. It was sometime by and the clock indicated 2 o'clock in the morning and I felt like an asshole it now still around an interview too please. But it was in the last hours of the night as it it at the beginning was just as enthusiastisch.
And it even gave a bottle Whisky to me on the way... As I said, an untiring individual Question: "Concidence OF MEMORY" does not close search with a famous quotation of Kant "the applause of many, it is rarely honest and meant sincere. But look for the acknowledgment of some few, count however weighs not the voices." How does the quotation affect your work and how much means it you? VM: Well, I think it am well different to listen... But, if you do not make things for its agreement... that are exactly which the quotation to express want, but it leaves me to think to never do things for a public -- and I will not also do it. I mean, I give these dedications to my public, when thanks for it bought her this book, for it it from who white where here ago came. Some these people came from Texas, read Vegas, Canada and I know not where ago... Question: I believe someone got along out.
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Yup. So far the sniper has only been as far south as Fredericksburg, which is still an hour north of here.
But I used to live pretty close to the Falls Church location and still have lots of friends who live near there.
(Morning all, back later)
Maybe we could find one that had some meeting rooms.
I thought we were doing that at ksen's house.
Maybe we could find one that had some meeting rooms.
I thought we were doing that at ksen's house.
Possibly! I don't know if I could find the time, and I know for a FACT it would be lousy, but I guess that's almost the point, isn't it? here is where I told what I MIGHT could use as a plot. Unoriginal, but could be kinda fun to come up with the group of characters and such.
LOL! Funny thing is, even garbled, I recognize this interview! It was posted on TORN a couple weeks ago....
Viggo Mortensen Talks
10/03/02, 6:39 am EST - leo
Thought you guys might like to check out this lengthy interview with Viggo Mortensen on Morphizm.com that just went up. It clocks in around two pages and is full of interesting stuff on the next movie, his new book and more, check it out here!
Thanx to Scott for that!
Unfortunately, I can't get the "more" link to work so the source page might be gone, or my browser is acting possessed, can't tell.... but it was posted at morphizm.com.
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