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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The New Hobbit Hole

Concerning Hobbits

The New Hobbit Chronicles

This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.

In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:

Our discussion has been light:

It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog

However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB

Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr

Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog

Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB

Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed

To the very philosophical:

…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla

To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…

…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB

Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog

…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1

Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed

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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom

…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253

Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed

So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.


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To: Overtaxed
Oh well. Sunday Sneak!
33,701 posted on 10/13/2002 2:24:43 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
I did that on purpose! Nyah!
33,702 posted on 10/13/2002 2:25:29 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
Dagnabbit!!
33,703 posted on 10/13/2002 2:25:48 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
I tend to avoid services that you pay for monthly....it's a finance control thing.
33,704 posted on 10/13/2002 2:27:51 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: SuziQ
Good fer you...MUD
33,705 posted on 10/13/2002 3:57:31 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Overtaxed; SuziQ; HairOfTheDog; ksen; Corin Stormhands; Sam Cree; Penny1; g'nad; All
Well, the bathroom is done! Here are the best pictures...

You can click here to see some more...

The flash made it look a little pink and without the flash makes it look a little yellow. I't actually cream with light beige countertop, toilet and tub.

33,706 posted on 10/13/2002 4:07:06 PM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
Your 'new' bathroom is LOVELY!! You should be VERY proud of yourselves!! Remodeling is tough because you have to use things while you're trying to get the work done!
33,707 posted on 10/13/2002 4:10:27 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: 2Jedismom
Nice job! You want to redo my bathroom next? What kind of curtains did you put on the window in the shower?
33,708 posted on 10/13/2002 4:15:15 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: SuziQ
Thank you! We are very thrilled with it. The pictures don't do it justice...the walls are almost completely white (you think, until you hold something truly white up against it...) and the floor has a greyish marble effect to it.

It is caulked under the baseboards, so when Joshua threw up last night, I could just wipe the baseboards clean.
33,709 posted on 10/13/2002 4:16:13 PM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: Overtaxed
Just a plain old plastic cheap levelor-like jobber. When it gets grungy we can just throw it out, but so far it's done good...I just spray it with tilex when I clean the tub and splash water on it and it comes clean.
33,710 posted on 10/13/2002 4:17:42 PM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: Overtaxed
Which makes me wonder about this paint. I could spray it with tilex and wipe it off before...I wonder if this paint will hold up as well? We'll see, I guess.
33,711 posted on 10/13/2002 4:19:57 PM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
Just wondering. You wouldn't happen to know how to restore a fiberglass tub, would you?
33,712 posted on 10/13/2002 4:20:00 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
The paint inside the window, I mean...
33,713 posted on 10/13/2002 4:20:21 PM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
They have bathroom/kitchen paint. That's what I put in my kitchen. It pretty much wipes clean.
33,714 posted on 10/13/2002 4:21:15 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: 2Jedismom
I don't know if I'll get my money back...

Well, not if you take it back to the pinhead...

33,715 posted on 10/13/2002 4:23:12 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands; HairOfTheDog
Good Grief! I just realized I have to catch up on two-hundred posts. I hope Hair finds it entertaining...
33,716 posted on 10/13/2002 4:24:26 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands
Hair might, but TNR probably won't. :)

WB!

33,717 posted on 10/13/2002 4:25:31 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
No I don't, but I be Lowe's or somebody could get you on the right track...
33,718 posted on 10/13/2002 4:25:57 PM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
I used something on it once to remove the soap scum and ended up having to recaulk around the fixtures.
33,719 posted on 10/13/2002 4:27:28 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Corin Stormhands
I got my money back and we actually made $21 more than was needed! I liked it because my budget was $121 and I only spent $100 and they indeed got the $21 extra to put "in the bank" for future use!
33,720 posted on 10/13/2002 4:27:44 PM PDT by 2Jedismom
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