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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The New Hobbit Hole

Concerning Hobbits

The New Hobbit Chronicles

This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.

In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:

Our discussion has been light:

It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog

However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB

Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr

Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog

Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB

Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed

To the very philosophical:

…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla

To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…

…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB

Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog

…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1

Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed

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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom

…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253

Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed

So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.


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To: RMDupree
sneak
33,301 posted on 10/11/2002 11:26:49 AM PDT by RMDupree
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To: SuziQ
sneak..
33,302 posted on 10/11/2002 11:26:53 AM PDT by ksen
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To: Corin Stormhands
Ok...
33,303 posted on 10/11/2002 11:28:12 AM PDT by ksen
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To: RMDupree; Corin Stormhands; ksen
Yow, I almost got stampeded in the rush for the Precious!

Congrats, RM! Is that your first?
33,304 posted on 10/11/2002 11:28:41 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: RMDupree
THE PRECIOUS IS MINE!!!! BWAAAHAHAHAAHAHHA!!

At long last! For the Shire!

*Insert flitty dance here just to irritate the dwarf!*

33,305 posted on 10/11/2002 11:28:46 AM PDT by RMDupree
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To: RMDupree; Corin Stormhands
Very nice RM, well done! And you beat out Corin to boot. ;^)
33,306 posted on 10/11/2002 11:30:01 AM PDT by ksen
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To: Corin Stormhands
No bacon til Monday for you!

(I can afford to be plucky now, since I beat you to the Precious!)

33,307 posted on 10/11/2002 11:30:29 AM PDT by RMDupree
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To: RMDupree
*Insert flitty dance here just to irritate the dwarf!*

Watch out for the Cracks of Doom(tm). One of those flits did Smeagol in...

33,308 posted on 10/11/2002 11:31:10 AM PDT by ksen
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
Yup. I finally got one. Right place, right time finally!
33,309 posted on 10/11/2002 11:33:18 AM PDT by RMDupree
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To: ksen
And you beat out Corin to boot.

That's what makes it sooooo satisfying!

33,310 posted on 10/11/2002 11:35:43 AM PDT by RMDupree
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To: RMDupree
LOL, luckily, things move quickly enough here that everyone has plenty of opportunities! :)
33,311 posted on 10/11/2002 11:35:57 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Corin Stormhands
And I think you mean before I get to the precious...

ahem.

33,312 posted on 10/11/2002 11:37:29 AM PDT by RMDupree
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
OK, just distract us from the Precious, will you!? What a funny story about Dachshunds! I don't remember every dressing Suzie or Pumpkin up in any sort of costume. I would think it would annoy them!
33,313 posted on 10/11/2002 11:39:23 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
I would love to see Tom Dachshund in a pumpkin costume.
33,314 posted on 10/11/2002 11:47:44 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: SuziQ
just distract us from the Precious, will you

Sorry about that! I was very surprised when the screen refreshed after posting to find myself in the midst of a Precious-scramble!

Glad you liked the article anyway... ;)

33,315 posted on 10/11/2002 11:48:27 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: RMDupree
Did I miss luncheon?
33,316 posted on 10/11/2002 11:52:12 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: SuziQ; HairOfTheDog
Well, I just got in from my mom's. They think she was overmedicated on something (due to not eating as much) and that's why they are giving her the IV. Kinda rinsing her out, I guess. My mom said that she probably won't put her to sleep since she's not obviously suffering and really just sleeps all the time. She is hoping she'll just fall asleep and not wake up.

I watched her closely yesterday, because I thought that would be what was gonna happen. But really, just a few days ago I was over there and she was very fiesty...I had an old pillow and I shook it at her and she was attacking it pretty fiercely! So who knows.
33,317 posted on 10/11/2002 11:56:04 AM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: RMDupree
(I can afford to be plucky now, since I beat you to the Precious!)

Well, if I must say, you're acting rather elfish...

33,318 posted on 10/11/2002 11:59:43 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands
Oh Dear Lord Help Us

Related or not, this is a nightmare.

33,319 posted on 10/11/2002 12:04:08 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
No Mr. Hamfist, you didn't miss it.

I took it inside to warm it all up and I've reset the table. Not many people were here when I first dished out so there are plenty of leftovers (roast suckling pig with stir fry veggies)!

33,320 posted on 10/11/2002 12:04:40 PM PDT by RMDupree
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