Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.
In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:
Our discussion has been light:
It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog
However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB
Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr
Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog
Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB
Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed
To the very philosophical:
…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla
To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…
…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB
Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog
…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1
Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed
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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom
…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253
Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed
So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.
Oh puh-leez. My wife has called me in from outside to dispatch a bug. And we don't even have them Palmetto critters...
So you were waiting for housekeeping... ;-)
My brother once put his wet suit on with a scorpion inside. I forgot where it bit him.
So are we, Corin. However long she has left, as least she'll be happy until she goes!
Ahh yes! The fabled Xerox Document Center in Leesburg...been there for a substance abuse seminar...no Corin, I didn't get sent for abusing substances...
They've got a great salad bar...but you're right...their housekeeping could use a little help...
Once I was waiting for a deer when a flock of about 75 turkeys walked out in the field. They were so thick, I thought I might have gotten several with one shot, except, of course, turkeys were not in season for a week or so.
I don't get enough hunting days, though, to waste them chasing birds. Though many would rather do that, esp. turkeys.
I was on the phone, so I didn't hear it all. But they said that they don't think this latest one is related. This was apparently a robbery.
Pretty much standard fare for DC...
The first step is admitting that you have a problem.
Ouch! I would hate to think where it might have got him!
Oh Hair, that is so funny! My sister told me her son remarked on Mama's inability to remember recent events, saying that if there are 119 other residents in the home, then Mimi will make 119 new friends every day! And that's so true!! She really is a social animal (I get it honest!), and up til now, wasn't interested in being around people because she knew that she just was 'all there'. But now she's lost that ability to realize her impairment, so she's back to the chattering stage! When my brother left her there the first day, she was already bending the ears of the staff members! She'll enjoy being around other people now.
Actually, she still remembers who we are; she's fuzzy on the grandkids because they haven't been in her memory as long. It would be neat if someone brought pets to the folks at her place. She has a little dog, a mutt named Chuckie, and my oldest brother took him home with him. Chuckie is about 13 yrs. old, so he may not be around much longer either, but he's a sweetie, and Mama always loved having doggies around.
Oh I know I gotta problem... and he lives about 70 miles South of Quantico...And I'm gettin' ready to make it "go away"...
I miss having a doxie! Sir SuziQ bought me the big 'Beanie Baby" doxie, though. His name is "Weenie", and he's the same color that my Suzie was! I had bought the big 'Beanie', "Rover" for him; it's the red dog with floppy ears and a BIG nose!
Sounds like another good Christmas idea!
That's it! I was there back in, oh, 90 or 91, I forget. Two weeks there and never saw anything beyond the center, since my company didn't spring for a rental car. I did get to fly in and out of (then) National Airport, which was neat... if I remember right I saw the Pentagon from the plane as we were coming in to land.
Before you commit to that color, Rosie, check out the California color called "Rushing River". I painted my kitchen that color earlier this year and it is GORGEOUS! It is blue with yellow undertones, so it is actually a WARM blue! In the evenings there is sort of a blue/green tinge to the walls that is lovely! Sir SuziQ didn't want a dark color, but I wanted a rich color, so this is just perfect!
Though it is a Calif. color, I got it mixed in a Pratt and Lambert paint. I just like the durability of their paints.
I really admire that graphic
We have the little beanie baby version...I bought it for Mom for her birthday a few years back, before she finally wore down Dad and he let her get a real one. ;-)
They just ain't got no culture!!
Too late...it's already bought and paid for. ;-) I need the extra motivation of having the paint sitting and staring me in the face. It's nice, though, really! I'll try and get a picture if I ever finish. Kind of a periwinkle blue, but very light. It'll cheer up that room INCREDIBLY, I'm sure!
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