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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The New Hobbit Hole

Concerning Hobbits

The New Hobbit Chronicles

This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.

In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:

Our discussion has been light:

It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog

However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB

Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr

Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog

Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB

Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed

To the very philosophical:

…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla

To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…

…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB

Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog

…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1

Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed

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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom

…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253

Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed

So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Chit/Chat; Poetry; TV/Movies; The Hobbit Hole
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Thands LC. Now that we're past that.

I'm not surprised at his political leanings.

19,701 posted on 08/17/2002 8:44:12 PM PDT by DonnerT
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To: DonnerT
Getting late here. I gonna hit the hay.
19,702 posted on 08/17/2002 8:46:25 PM PDT by DonnerT
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla; JenB
Hullo Night Hobbits! - I just got done watching an Elijah Wood movie on USA - "The Faculty" - It was really bad, but EW was cute!
19,703 posted on 08/17/2002 9:10:56 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: All
OK - I guess everyone has gone to bed... I will too.... Here is a night lite!


19,704 posted on 08/17/2002 9:27:38 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; 2Jedismom; Bear_in_RoseBear
OK - I guess everyone has gone to bed... I will too.... Here is a night lite!

Not quite as attractive as the ones you, 2Jedismom, and BearinRoseBear usually post!

19,705 posted on 08/17/2002 9:32:23 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
I thought it was kinda fun.... OK I will find a better one.
19,706 posted on 08/17/2002 9:33:59 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

19,707 posted on 08/17/2002 9:40:51 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Much better! Is that around your area? That lightbulb reminds me of Andy Warhol's stuff. I do not like Warhol's stuff!
19,708 posted on 08/17/2002 9:57:49 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla; HairOfTheDog; All
Good Morning everyone!


19,709 posted on 08/18/2002 4:47:25 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
Morning! I won't be around until this evening unless it rains - pray for sunshine here, ok? I've got to get these kids out of the house before they completely trash the place.
19,710 posted on 08/18/2002 5:55:38 AM PDT by JenB
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To: Overtaxed; JenB; Corin Stormhands
Good Morning everyone!

Morning to you! Like JenB I won't be around till late. Nice picture -- is that Corin on the beach?

19,711 posted on 08/18/2002 6:24:21 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla; JenB
Morning to you! Like JenB I won't be around till late. Nice picture -- is that Corin on the beach?

Morning! I thought about Corin when I came across this picture. He should have taken his dog with him.

I'll be in and out checking on the hobbit activity and watching the race.

19,712 posted on 08/18/2002 6:59:07 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: All
The word on the net is that the opening scene for TTT is Gollum in the Marshes.
19,713 posted on 08/18/2002 7:14:00 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed; Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Good morning! I will be weed-wacking again and checking with the hobbits at resting points!

You know real farmers have tractors with mowers to do this stuff.
19,714 posted on 08/18/2002 7:36:28 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Overtaxed
That's cool word... I guess... I dunno. After worrying about Frodo for a year, I want to see if he is OK first.
19,715 posted on 08/18/2002 7:37:36 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; carton253
I'm sure you're relieved to know that Gollum's okay.
19,716 posted on 08/18/2002 7:54:35 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
Oh yes I was so worried about Gollum. Wondered how he could get out of Moria after the bridge was out.

I don't know a thing about moviemaking, but it would seem they are pretty happy with the cut if they are scoring it... At least time is passing toward December!

19,717 posted on 08/18/2002 7:59:30 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Maybe I should bring a timer to the movie to see if they really spend 50 minutes on Helm's Deep.
19,718 posted on 08/18/2002 8:06:41 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla; JenB; Rocko; DonnerT
" He was also a leftist political activist in my part of New Jersey, back around 1970"

That's interesting, I wonder if I would have enjoyed the Gateway books so much if I'd known that. 'Course in those days I thought I was a liberal, even though I still didn't like "leftists." Too unaware to realize that liberals and leftists were the same thing.

I wonder if Pohl admitted to himself the deadening influence leftist thought has on individuality, since he went to great lengths developing, what I considered to be, sympathetic characters.

I enjoyed his concept of the alien spaceships that humans found and used, never knowing where the ships would actually take them, as their destinations were preset. Some found death, others wealth on their voyages. Plus the idea in the back of everyone's mind that one day the aliens themselves might appear. Which they did, eventually.

19,719 posted on 08/18/2002 8:23:33 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Sam Cree; Overtaxed; HairOfTheDog; JenB; Lucius Cornelius Sulla; All
Good morning everyone...

You know, weekends are entirely too short. Haven't managed to accomplish anything useful here, and this one's almost over. (sigh!)

Oh well... hope everyone has a good Sunday!
19,720 posted on 08/18/2002 9:02:57 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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