Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
Rivendell, where the she-elves are manly and the he-elves...well, let's not go there...But we can go to 18,000...or should we?
My son was still 12 when we saw it the first time. He wanted the "Big Gulp" size. By the time we went to the theater to see it a third time he said, "Um, can I just have some M&Ms?"
Perhaps we need g'nad in on this discussion.
. Gandalf was not afraid to touch the ring when Bilbo gave it up in Bag End. When Bilbo dropped it, Gandalf quickly picked it up, put it in the envelope, and put it on the mantel. He was afraid of temptation, but he wasn't silly about it.
The Ring was in Bilbo's pocket, in an envelope, not just loose. Gandalf touched only the envelope, just as in the movie.
Aragorn did not force himself on Frodo at the inn. Instead, Aragorn had to prove himself as someone who could be trusted.
True, but Aragorn does just show up, uninvited, in the hobbits' room. Frodo is quite uncomfortable with him there for a bit.
Arwen did not meet Aragorn and the hobbits on the road west of Rivendell. No matter how much political correctness screams for a female character riding a horse and appearing to take part in an action scene, putting her in this position was wrong. Political correctness should have been spanked and told to go do the laundry. Aragorn was met by the sons of Elrond.
First part yes, that was silly, second part no. Aragorn was met by Glorfindel, not one of Elrond's sons. Arwen showing up was quite silly, but it does make sense in reducing the number of small characters floating around.
The Leavetaking was cut way, way down - supposedly it will be restored in the extended version. In any case, since the fellowship starts wearing elf-cloaks and leaf-brooches, we can assume it happened off screen.
No one talked to Frodo about Gollum until the river trip, and that conversation was with Aragorn and not Gandalf.
The very powerful and moving "pity and destiny and fate" speech was moved to Moria and also served to show us that Gollum was after them. Personally I think it came out pretty well. You wouldn't want those great lines just removed, right? Jackson did a lot of "cut and paste" with dialogue, beefing up scenes that on film seem skimpy, and cutting down on those that were long. It's just the translation from one medium to another requires some changes. For istance the words that Boromir, in the movie, speaks on Caradhras, about the ring being so small a thing, are taken from the end, where he tries to take the Ring.
I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the movie, and I hope you don't think this is an attack on you, but I do disagree with some of your list.
Waving to my hobbit friends - off to work in a few, but this is a good thing to do before!
Ummm....the traipsing around in the wilderness with the Black Riders part was out of character.
Well the weeds I whacked last weekend are dead, the garden has dried out for the most part (very depressing) and it doesn't take that long to cut okra so I'm just hanging out watching The Movie again.
You're welcome!
I still believe that Arwen was placed in that position to pander to feminism
I disagree with you here... I think she was put in that position to introduce the love interest. But anyway... my point was, no movie can be 100% faithful to the book it was based on. They all have to take some liberties, if only because of the differences in portraying a story on screen as opposed to on the printed page. The first time I watched the movie, I deliberately withheld my judgement, just waiting for something to feel wrong, something to betray the spirit of the books. For me, nothing did.
I mentioned Starship Troopers because it's a perfect example of how badly Hollyweird can butcher a good book. I won't go into detail, because there's a Precious lying around, but basically the only thing carried over from the book to the movie were the characters' names. Everything else, including events, motivations, even the basic theme of the book, was discarded for the director's "vision". When faced with the possibility of that being done to LOTR, I feel the fans got off quite lucky.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree! :)
That's good, isn't it? Myself, I hate zombie weeds.
He may have just thought it was cool.
Or maybe he was running out of Elves to send. If you're not going to have Glorfindel or the sons of Elrond, it narrows it down to Elrond or Arwen. So Elrond would send his own daughter into danger.......:)
Yes, that's good! I was going to plant some stuff but it's so dry I don't know when it'll come up.
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