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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: carton253
Hmmm.....OT didn't promise on the precious....

Smeagol never had hushpuppies? Hushpuppies are cornmeal batter with minced onions and fried in deep fat like chipses. Would Smeagol like the recipe?

1,781 posted on 04/04/2002 6:24:12 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
Then promise doesn't count... so says Gollum. Follow Smeagol... Smeagol is very, very good. Can trust Smeagol, yes?

Smeagol knows hush puppies now. Smeagol doesn't like them. Yech! Ach! Worse them lemba! Smelly elf-food!

1,782 posted on 04/04/2002 6:26:44 AM PST by carton253
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To: carton253
Think Elveses like hushpuppies? Hushpuppies good with lots of butter!
1,783 posted on 04/04/2002 6:38:42 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
Great idea! Clog their arteries... no move elvses! Smeagol likes OT very, very much.
1,784 posted on 04/04/2002 6:40:06 AM PST by carton253
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To: carton253
But...elveses drink Winyards. Smelly grape juice clears arteries.
1,785 posted on 04/04/2002 6:43:30 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: carton253; Overtaxed
This elf-friend is getting concerned about the slinkers, off having a conversation like that together!
1,786 posted on 04/04/2002 6:57:33 AM PST by JenB
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To: Overtaxed;carton253;JenB
Good morning, fair weather friend! Just waking up and blinking. Fed the ponies at six and went back to bed. Lazy hobbit. Should not have slept. Didn't know that carton would be sneaking this morning.

Carton, be nice and stop bashing nice elveses.

JenB... Maybe Sauron gave the ring to his brother Jauron for safekeeping?

1,787 posted on 04/04/2002 6:58:58 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Not Sneaking! And Sauron does not share power.
1,788 posted on 04/04/2002 7:03:55 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: HairOfTheDog
...even if he had a brother. :)
1,789 posted on 04/04/2002 7:04:45 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: HairOfTheDog
Hope the ponies are happy! Help me defend the Elves against this vile slander. Perhaps I can come up with names for Elf-weapons for us...
1,790 posted on 04/04/2002 7:06:30 AM PST by JenB
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To: HairOfTheDog
Tricksy hobbit!
1,791 posted on 04/04/2002 7:06:36 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
He doesn't share power now, but maybe he did then. He learned not to make that mistake again. Jauron used the ring to create beautiful flowers and magical bunnies, and Sauron hates both flowers and bunnies. Maybe that is when he started just torching everything.
1,792 posted on 04/04/2002 7:09:52 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Dark Lords never nice...not even to own "brotherses"
1,793 posted on 04/04/2002 7:12:05 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
Not nice to poor Smeagol... hurtses my handses. Need handses to catch fishses...

Seriously... in the movie, when I saw poor Gollum being tortured, I felt so bad.

1,794 posted on 04/04/2002 7:27:32 AM PST by carton253
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To: HairOfTheDog
...but Smeagol likes nice fresh bunnies!
1,795 posted on 04/04/2002 7:31:25 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: JenB
Should have looked before asking. Google is an amazing product!

At this site I found the following.

http://www.daimi.aau.dk/~bouvin/tolkien/ringnumenordestroyed.html

What happened to the Ring when Númenor was destroyed?

Nothing. Sauron carried it back to Middle-earth, though there might be some question as to how he managed it. Tolkien said he did, and Tolkien should know: "Though reduced to 'a spirit of hatred borne on a dark wind', I do not think one need boggle at this spirit carrying off the One Ring, upon which his power of dominating minds now largely depended." (Letters, p. 280). In fact, as far as we know all the spiritual beings (Valar and Maiar) were perfectly capable of manipulating physical objects.

Interesting Tolkien FAQ at this site.

1,796 posted on 04/04/2002 7:32:45 AM PST by Restorer
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Mini-review of the preview from Entertainment Weekly

Less than a week after winning four Oscars for ''The Fellowship of the Ring,'' New Line has released a preview of December's ''The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers.'' Tacked onto the end of the first movie, the four-minute preview features brand new footage that unlocks secrets and provides the first glimpse of a number of characters who either didn't appear or received only sparse face time in ''Fellowship.''

SPOILER WARNING: The following description of the ''Two Towers'' trailer may reveal some things you'd rather not know, so don't read on if you want to keep the mystery alive.

Gandalf the Goner?
Early in the preview there's a shot from the perspective of what appears to be an assailant sneaking up on three members of the Fellowship: Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas. With his long, straight Albino hair, it looks like Saruman, but it turns out to be... Gandalf! Yes, looking far more youthful than the Gandalf we saw groan and grimace his way through ''The Fellowship,'' he's now referred to as Gandalf the White -- a livelier incarnation of Gandalf the Gray. But with Gandalf dying in the first movie, some might ask: Why spoil the surprise of his return in the preview?

A fan site for the trilogy, TheOneRing.net, recently ran a poll at director Peter Jackson's request asking fans what they wanted to see in the footage. Despite the spoiler factor, Gandalf the White was right at the top of the list. ''The ones who are going to go back again to see the extra footage are the fans -- and to them it's no spoiler [because it occurs in the book],'' says the site's Michael Regina.

Deep impact
Also prominent on that fans' list of coveted footage is a glimpse of the Battle of Helm's Deep. From the preview, it seems that Jackson's vision is everything Tolkien described, and maybe more. Nearly half the footage is committed to building up to the first war cries of Orcs and men facing off at Helm's Deep. Battle axes and staffs rhythmically stomp the rain-soaked ground. A seemingly endless wave of arrows flies in both directions. As quickly as ladders are raised to scale the defending wall, they are pushed back down, only to have 10 more ladders raised from a howling pack of invaders. Says Regina, ''Helm's Deep is the real payoff. It's the most anticipated scene for the people who have read the books.''

Gimme some tongue
The footage also offers a few glances of Grima Wormtongue, an eerie villain with oily skin and nappy hair who's twice the backstabber that his master Saruman is. ''[Actor] Brad Dourif is a pretty creepy guy in the first place, so it's no surprise that he really turned out as well as he does in the preview,'' Regina says. The preview also shows the man he turns on, a very kingly-looking Bernard Hill as Theoden.

1,797 posted on 04/04/2002 8:26:07 AM PST by ecurbh
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To: ecurbh
Smeagol looks around and waits... it seems no one wants 1800. Smeagol will take it.
1,798 posted on 04/04/2002 8:35:22 AM PST by carton253
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To: carton253
Because its precious to him...
1,799 posted on 04/04/2002 8:35:41 AM PST by carton253
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To: carton253
Precious...
1,800 posted on 04/04/2002 8:35:53 AM PST by carton253
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