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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The New Hobbit Hole

Concerning Hobbits

The New Hobbit Chronicles

This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.

In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:

Our discussion has been light:

It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog

However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB

Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr

Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog

Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB

Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed

To the very philosophical:

…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla

To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…

…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB

Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog

…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1

Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed

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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom

…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253

Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed

So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.


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To: JenB
It's the scrimping and saving for 7000 years that's the killer! Just hope the inflation rate doesn't exceed your interest rate!
16,821 posted on 08/05/2002 7:06:25 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear; DonnerT; JenB; Overtaxed; HairOfTheDog
Hubby and I are going to watch it...I'll check in later to see who all got it at midnight.
16,822 posted on 08/05/2002 7:06:51 PM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
I have to be the most obsessed one of all!

Wanna arm-wrestle?

16,823 posted on 08/05/2002 7:07:01 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Overtaxed
A cheap Elf?

Yeah, like Elrond only sending eight people to accompany Frodo to Mordor, and none of them from his household... or maybe like Thingol not wanting to pony up for the Nauglamir!

16,824 posted on 08/05/2002 7:07:25 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: 2Jedismom
How many times have you watched it?
16,825 posted on 08/05/2002 7:07:45 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: HairOfTheDog
I thought JenB got it, anyway.
16,826 posted on 08/05/2002 7:08:12 PM PDT by Rocko
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To: Overtaxed
What do they need money for? - I didn't see money change hands once in the story... Even at the Inn at the Prancing Pony...
16,827 posted on 08/05/2002 7:08:33 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Did you ever get the bootleg to play right on your machine - either before or after the upgrade?

Upgrade?? Upgrade??

I did watch it that night we watched it in the chat room, just couldn't get synchronized with you guys.

16,828 posted on 08/05/2002 7:09:43 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
Yeah...with all that loot the Elves have stockpiled over the years you'd think they'd pay their own way. :)
16,829 posted on 08/05/2002 7:09:53 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed; HairOfTheDog
I saw it 19 times in the cinema before I quit counting...

I have parental responsibilities that keep me from going completely over the edge...the movie has played non-stop since we got home, however! LOL
16,830 posted on 08/05/2002 7:09:54 PM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: DonnerT
If I'd been closer to Austin we would have met?

Well, not necessarily... sometimes I just wave at cars passing on the highway!

16,831 posted on 08/05/2002 7:10:33 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Oh - So it did work? - I thought there was something wrong with your sound... you haven't watched it since?
16,832 posted on 08/05/2002 7:11:56 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
In the movie, I don't remember seeing money. The book is quite full of it - well, there is money, anyway. Remember Butterburr paid for the ponies when the Nazgul scared them off? And of course Bilbo with his "hill all full of gold - and jools, they say".
16,833 posted on 08/05/2002 7:12:36 PM PDT by JenB
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To: DonnerT
(Bear is a little weird Donner, the girl at Wal Mart told me so)
16,834 posted on 08/05/2002 7:12:47 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Overtaxed
Maybe that's why they're so eager to head for the West... sneaking off with all their loot before the other races get wise!
16,835 posted on 08/05/2002 7:12:51 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: 2Jedismom
I saw it 19 times in the cinema before I quit counting...

Yes, but did you read it 19 times?

16,836 posted on 08/05/2002 7:13:18 PM PDT by Rocko
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
none of them from his household

Well the only one who was rumored to be going from Elrond's household was Arwen, and you remember how popular that idea was!!

16,837 posted on 08/05/2002 7:13:46 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: JenB
hehehehe - I know... But I didn't get the feeling any of them were carrying money on the quest... They didn't have to buy supplies, food, anything!
16,838 posted on 08/05/2002 7:15:02 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
I didn't see money change hands once in the story... Even at the Inn at the Prancing Pony...

What about the part where Frodo felt he had fallen in with a rogue and worried that he couldn't spare any of his money and all of it would hardly satisfy? And Butterbur paid 12 silver pennies for Bill and gave Merry 18 more for the loss of his ponies.

16,839 posted on 08/05/2002 7:15:17 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
He gave Merry money? - I had forgotten that! - OK... I retract.
16,840 posted on 08/05/2002 7:17:03 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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