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To: Red Badger

They shouldn’t be just using peddle or no peddle as a measure, but also horsepower or what equivalence. It doesn’t sound like to me that he got something he could use on the highway.


4 posted on 09/25/2026 9:36:11 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Male simping and female promiscuity is the same thing. Resources without reciprocation.)
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To: Jonty30

If this is a motorcycle, would those little battery-powered kiddie cars qualify as cars?

No opinion on whether this should be a motorcycle or not. Not enough details. But it seems like there should be some clarity in the law and in sales. Was it sold as a motorcycle? Or as a child’s toy?


6 posted on 09/25/2026 9:38:53 AM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Jonty30

It was a dirt bike, for criminy’s sake. NOT a road vehicle, and he was operating it on a shoulder, not in a traffic lane.

Another example of lack of clarity in defining the vehicle involved. Dune buggies are not road vehicles either.

And how you “tow” a two-wheeler vehicle, anyway? Throw it up on the tow truck bed, and strap it down.


23 posted on 09/25/2026 9:56:27 AM PDT by alloysteel (Strength to make change happen, humility to accept reality, and wisdom to know the difference.)
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To: Jonty30

Pedal, and they do Typical e-bikes are 750 watt, this was a 4500 watt e-moto that most states require license, insurance, and registration.,


48 posted on 09/25/2026 10:33:48 AM PDT by bigbob (We are all Charlie Kirk now)
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To: Jonty30

Pedal, and they do Typical e-bikes are 750 watt, this was a 4500 watt e-moto that most states require license, insurance, and registration.,


49 posted on 09/25/2026 10:33:54 AM PDT by bigbob (We are all Charlie Kirk now)
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To: Jonty30

Pedal, and they do Typical e-bikes are 750 watt, this was a 4500 watt e-moto that most states require license, insurance, and registration.,


50 posted on 09/25/2026 10:33:57 AM PDT by bigbob (We are all Charlie Kirk now)
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To: Jonty30

Yeah it’s more than just no pedals.

But no pedals automatically makes it not a bicycle or E bike.

You need a licence for anything other than a bicycle or E bike. What licence you need is where engine size and HP matter but you must still have some licence , insurance and registration on public roads which includes shoulders or really anywhere not your private property.

Here is Florida exact laws.

https://www.flhsmv.gov/driver-licenses-id-cards/motorcycle-rider-education-endorsements/motorcycle-motor-scooter-moped-and-motorized-scooter/

Texas is similar.

No pedals is automatically a motorcycle.

If it has pedals , and is more than 750 watts or goes 28mph or more not hard limited by a not user adjustable limiter then its legally a motorcycle even with pedals.

Texas says full M endorsement , total, registration, plates, and liability insurance too.

They heavily enforce it in North Texas we have kids on 5000 watt motorcycles no tags, no helmets and then the parents are floored when they get $2000 driving without a licence, insurance and registration tickets. Read the laws dummies.


55 posted on 09/25/2026 10:40:36 AM PDT by GenXPolymath
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