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To: Nateman
“It costs 60$ to bring a barrel of American oil to market. At 100$ a barrel that is 40$ a barrel profit. That means oil companies can now do things like bringing Venezuela oil to market and building more refineries.”

Grok:

Mostly false or heavily oversimplified, with the cost figure being roughly in the right ballpark for some metrics but not a clean $60 average that produces a simple $40 profit, and the “that means…” conclusions do not follow.Production costs for American oilU.S. oil costs vary widely by basin, well age, company size, and what is included (lifting/operating costs vs. full-cycle costs that include drilling, completion, overhead, taxes, returns to investors, etc.).Operating/lifting costs for existing wells are typically much lower—often in the $30–45 range on average (Dallas Fed surveys have shown averages around $41, with large producers lower and some as low as the mid-20s to low-30s in core Permian areas).

Full-cycle or new-well breakevens (what is needed to profitably drill a new well) are higher. Recent Dallas Fed surveys and other analyses put the average needed WTI price for new wells around $60–70 (often cited near $65), with Permian figures frequently in the high $50s to low $60s. Some sources put weighted averages or marginal barrels near the mid-50s to low $60s; core “sweet spot” full-cycle costs can be lower (high $40s in the best Permian areas). Longer-term projections sometimes show rising costs as core inventory depletes.

okenergytoday.com

A flat “it costs $60 to bring a barrel of American oil to market” is a reasonable rough approximation for new drilling/full-cycle economics in many contexts, but it is not accurate for ongoing production from existing wells (which is cheaper) or for every barrel/basin. At a sustained $100 oil price, profits would generally be well above $40 per barrel for most producers once operating costs and other factors are considered—especially on existing production—though actual realized margins also depend on differentials, hedges, royalties, taxes, and corporate costs.Does high oil (e.g., $100) automatically enable “bringing Venezuela oil to market” and building more refineries?No. High crude prices improve cash flow and project economics for producers, but they do not automatically unlock these specific actions.Venezuela oil: Venezuelan crude is mostly extra-heavy/sour, which is more expensive and technically challenging to produce and requires specialized refining (or diluent). Production has been depressed for years by underinvestment, infrastructure decay, mismanagement, and sanctions. Restarting or expanding meaningful volumes requires large capital outlays, political/legal clarity, and sanctions relief or licenses. U.S. companies (Chevron has operated under licenses) can participate under the right conditions, but high global oil prices alone do not remove the political, operational, and commercial barriers. Some estimates suggest certain new or rehabilitated projects need relatively high prices to break even, and the oil often sells at a discount.

cfr.org

Building more refineries: Refining economics depend primarily on crack spreads (the difference between crude costs and refined product prices), not the absolute crude price. New greenfield refineries are extremely capital-intensive (often tens of millions of dollars per thousand barrels per day of capacity), take years to permit and build, face environmental and regulatory hurdles, and compete with long-term demand uncertainty (including efficiency gains and potential demand plateaus). U.S. refiners have generally preferred expansions, upgrades, or higher utilization of existing plants over brand-new grassroots facilities. High crude prices can even squeeze refining margins if product prices do not rise in tandem. Sustained strong crack spreads would be a stronger incentive than high crude prices by themselves.

thundersaidenergy.com

In short: The $60 cost figure is a plausible approximation for certain (mainly new-well) U.S. costs, so $100 oil would be quite profitable for most producers. That profitability supports more U.S. drilling and investment in general, but it does not straightforwardly translate into U.S. companies easily scaling Venezuelan production or constructing new domestic refineries. Those depend on additional technical, political, regulatory, and refining-margin factors.

28 posted on 09/12/2026 12:05:25 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

Venezuela is open for all kinds of expansion now that it is no longer run by a Communist. President Trump seems to be in charge of policy there ( for now ) . That means the markets can work their usual magic.


34 posted on 09/12/2026 4:57:48 PM PDT by Nateman (Democrats did not strive for fraud friendly voting merely to continue honest elections.)
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