Posted on 08/26/2026 3:20:06 PM PDT by Jonty30
What Trump wanted was a point of origin labelling for manufactured products, so that other countries could not bypass their own trade deals and use Canada's very favourable standings to get their prouducts into the States at a discount and have Canadians make money.
The fact that Carney, Ford, and the Quebec Pm, all objected to this tells me that it is highly probable that they were doing this very thing already. Import China Steel and melt it down and recast it and label it Canadian.
IMO, Trump should give them a single warning that he will release all the documents of what the US knows what these idiot criminals were doing and let marbles fly.
I would also launch an investigation on the Carnival Bankers activities to see if they've been somehting that is criminal and can be proven.
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“Trump doesn’t want China’s criminality.”
So he creates his own?
wy69
“You are welcome to otherwise figure out why Canada walked over the idea of manufacturing origin labels.”
And I can’t. It doesn’t make any sense. While the raw market price of Chinese steel is lower, tariffs and limited tax remissions narrow or erase the price advantage for importers. There is no savings and the shipping costs are much greater.
wy69
“My understanding is Canada doesn’t export much refined petroleum products at all”
Whether they refine it or not, we buy a majority of our incoming oil from Canada. The US doesn’t produce much heavy sour oil and it is more expensive to process. So the wonder of why use it at all is the real question. And that’s because it is globally abundant, cheaper to buy than clean sweet oil, and major processing facilities are already built to handle its high sulfur content in the US. And having it in Canada makes shipping cheaper. Kind of a penny saved thought process.
wy69
“Canada did not want to label products shipped from Canada to the US with point of origin labelling”
That is a matter of policy. U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency requires foreign goods entering the United States to display their country of origin (such as “Made in Canada”) under U.S. law. Canada complies with international trade rules and marking requirements under agreements like the CUSMA/USMCA, but labeling an export with its origin indicates where it was made, not political annexation or becoming part of the United States. Just depends on who has the floor.
wy69
“In 2025, the US imported about 6.2 million barrels/day of crude and exported 4 million barrels for a net import of 2.2 million barrels/day, of which Canada supplied 65%.”
SO?
What does that have to do what I posted?
What act of criminality is Trump creating?
Canada wanted to use its position to help other countries by pass the tariffs they agreed to when they bargained with the United States. Our Canadian politicians were enriching themselves by helping China by pass tariffs and restrictions.
It doesn’t take much energy to melt a bar of steel and then recast.
It’s probably quite profitable, if you buy it at the Chinese price and then resell it at the Canadian price.
Eastern Canadian politicians are little better than the Mafia in their morality.
I can’t bear direct witness to what the steel and aluminum is that we are using for our war machines. From what I’ve read the Canadian steel is a better processed product. A good article for this is here:
wy69
Thats why I said that the Canadian industrialists buy the Chinese steel and recast it, to make it a better product.
“... to make it a better product.”
Actually for the US to get any product at all. Canada is trying to get into the tariff game with this:
Canada on Tuesday moved to impose up to 50% tariffs on a raft of U.S. goods, including hundreds of steel and aluminum products, following a breakdown of trade talks and heated tariff escalation between the two neighboring countries.
The next step will be for the US to increase our oil importing from Venezuela which will more than cover the supply from Canada as Venezuela holds about 303 billion barrels of proven oil reserves, ranking first in the entire world according to Worldometer. And if that isn’t enough or they try to cut off the electricity coming down from Ontario, we close the borders to people seeking health care in the US especially Detroit. Make them uncomfortable in their own failures. They need us more than we them. Trump was smart dealing with Venezuela.
I’m not going to say we don’t buy metal products from China, but Canada provides about 23% of all steel imported into the United States and between 50% and 60% (and up to 70% of specific primary types) of all aluminum imported by the U.S. But China supplies critical rare earth metals and processed minerals used in components for U.S. military vehicles, aircraft, and weapon systems. So it is possible the US is getting Chinese metal and other minerals and re-eforcing it for our military. And it is more than just China.
The U.S. relies heavily on foreign sources for aluminum, importing roughly 44% to 50% of its overall supply. This dependency increases for specialized high-strength advanced aluminum alloys used in military vehicle hulls, armor, aerospace, and missiles.
While the U.S. imports a smaller percentage of its total steel consumption (around 25%), historical supply chain crunches—such as the massive demand for armor plating during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars—led to instances where the Department of Defense utilized foreign-melted steel (from countries like Russia, China, and Mexico) that was finished inside the United States. We are still providing arms to countries like the Ukraine and others so that increase in consumption isn’t over. Other main importers of our weapons include countries with the largest shares going to regions in Europe and the Middle East. Saudi is one of our biggest customers.
Another one of those little secrets no one is talking about.
wy69
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