Well yes it is, but I don't think anyone in the Israeli government ever regarded Hamas as the sort of existential threat that Iran is to them. You do know that Hamas and Hezbollah had been getting their money from Iran, don't you?
Israel knew absolutely that Iran would wipe them off the map if it could, and Iran was in the process of getting that capability, so they spent great effort and cost getting eyes and ears everywhere in Iran they needed them.
I'm sure they tried to do that with Hamas too, but those paranoid wackjobs are likely far harder to infiltrate than was Iran.
There are two reasonable theories about what happened October 7.
1. Israel, having been lulled into a false sense of security just never expected such an attack, and they let their guard down. (Shows you these crazy bastards *WILL* attack first, even knowing the retaliation would wipe them out.)
2. Israeli intelligence knew it was coming and let it happen for the purpose of creating the political will back home to deal with the Hamas problem once and for all.
My father believed Franklin Delano Roosevelt did the same thing with Pearl Harbor, but didn't realize the destruction would be so bad. The same may have been true of Israeli Intelligence.
I tend to lean towards the second theory, because Israeli intelligence is pretty hard core and will do very ugly unpleasant things if they see them as necessary for the benefit of Israel.
But the first theory could be true, but it's hard to believe that they could have been caught so unawares because they are known to have very good spy networks, and it's difficult to believe everyone in their network had not heard enough about the attack to warn them.
So you are trying to present the October attack as evidence of Israel's incompetence, and you want to apply this idea to their intelligence gathering apparatus in Iran.
But the two things are not the same, both in difficulty of penetrating the enemy network, and in the motivation that would make them act as they did in both cases.
The fact that you "lean towards" this as what happened and still want to give the Israeli government the time of day is downright awe-inspiring in the worst way.
A government that would let the people that you yourself call fanatics unleash death and atrocities on their own citizens, for the sake of geopolitical goals, is one that should be fired into the Sun.
I stopped reading right there. It seems we’ve had this conversation before. One of the largest indirect sources of funding for Hamas over the last 15+ years has been the Israeli government itself, which allowed the transfer of funds to Hamas from Qatar. This was done to give Israel leverage over one faction in the divided leadership of Gaza.
Historically, Hamas has been a SUNNI Islamic faction. Any funds they have received from Iran were surely dwarfed by what they’ve received from Saudi Arabia and the wealthy Sunni kingdoms in the Persian Gulf region.
I tend to lean towards the second theory, because Israeli intelligence is pretty hard core and will do very ugly unpleasant things if they see them as necessary for the benefit of Israel.
I honestly can't believe you have the nerve and the moral compass to post something like this on Free Republic while maintaining your own position -- extensively documented here on this website -- on the U.S. role in the conflict between Iran and its neighbors in the Middle East.
If this is what you really believe the Israeli government is willing to do to its own citizens to advance their geopolitical agenda, then what the hell do you think they'd be willing to do to AMERICANS?
I now see your position on the U.S.-Iran conflict in the proper perspective -- and I can say with absolute certainty that you, sir, are out of your f#&%ing mind and don't even belong on the same planet as me (or anyone else who considers himself a patriotic American).
Frankly, if Caiaphas and the Sanhedrin who facilitated the arrest and crucifixion of Jesus Christ for His "crime" of blasphemy could come back to life here in 2026 and post on this website, I think their political and moral perspective on the world would be no different than yours.
I think it's high time for you to find somewhere else to post your diabolical sh!t.
Wow, you really want your name on that disgusting hunk of BS? Take it back. Have the mods delete it.