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But are they? We kept hearing over and over again that Iran was close to having nuclear weapons. After a while one gets skeptical.

[lepton]

But are they? We kept hearing over and over again that Iran was close to having nuclear weapons. After a while one gets skeptical.

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First they tried to build a nuclear reactor to enrich materials, and that was blown up.
Then, they tried a vast underground centrifuge facility, which was sabotaged and wrecked.
Then they tried an isolated underground centrifuge facility with samples verified to >60% and at least one to 83%, which was bombed and the entrances collapsed.
Then as a start to negotiations they said they still had 400kg of 60% materials, and began both to dig out the collapsed facilities and to begin even deeper facilities likely beyond conventional means of attack.
And you doubt them why?

[Paul R.]

The difference is that this time:

A) Iran was close to having them (nukes) in considerable numbers. That’s much tougher to knock back with espionage and such, as Israel (perhaps with some help from us) has done repeatedly and effectively in the past..

B) Iran was, as Sec. Rubio pointed out, getting to the point of having so many pretty decent missiles that they could immunize themselves from being dealt with (by threatening destruction of other Gulf States’ energy infrastructure and production, and, even hit much of Europe). This is the most CRUCIAL point, and Rubio is missing a bet by not repeating it daily, as people like you seem to not pick up on things very well.

Sorry if that seems a bit rude, but I tire of posters who so readily fall for our enemies’ agitprop and techniques to weaken us internally, when the information to the contrary is so obvious.

OTOH, I claim no God-like knowledge. I learn new stuff every day, and strive to do so. Until yesterday, I had no idea that Saudi Arabia had one of the highest concentrations of gamers on the planet: ~65% of the Saudi population / over 23 million people! I suspect some of the other Western influenced Gulf States are rather similar. This is a tremendous potential “defense” resource, and Saudi and their allies need to take advantage of it. If they did, they’d need MUCH less from us.

My last thought here? Do more research and have a good day.