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To: fr_freak

Physical copies of the Odyssey are very easy find.

And now I’ve seen the movie. And once again you cannot critique a movie without seeing. Let’s talk about some of the idiotic woke accusations:
Page and Nyong’o are on screen for a combined of under 5 minutes.
The “feminism” in the movie is really not much more than giving Penelope an arc and a little agency. Calypso also gets a tiny arc. And Circe is little sympathetic.

Outside of that it’s a damn good movie. Typical Nolan pacing, only feels like a 2 hour movie. Great shots, great FX (very little CG, Nolan hates CG), great acting, excellent interpretation of the story. Honestly you guys are missing out.

That’s hilarious you picked King Arthur as some immutable story that shouldn’t be altered. The actual legend of King Arthur, from around 830 AD, is pretty skinny. Just lists some battles really. Then there’s the Welsh poem that doesn’t even have him as a king, he’s just a warrior defending Britain. It’s not until the 12th century Arthurian legend really takes off, modernized (12th century modern obviously) and starts sucking up a whole bunch of other legends (like the Green Knight suddenly becoming Gawain). You see, this Arthurian Legend you think is so precious is really just a bunch of fan-fic and remakes. He’s been constantly morphing over the centuries to fit the desires of the story teller.

BUT, and here’s where you’re really proven to be completely full of, the fact that Arthurian Legend keeps getting rewritten also keeps the originals alive. If it wasn’t for the 12th century explosion of retelling of Arthur we probably wouldn’t have that legend anymore today. There’s tons of these kinds of stories that are largely lost to history, unless hang out with a very specific crowd of history nerds. But remakes, re-imaginings, fan-fic, movie adaptations, these are the things that introduce a new generation to the old stories. Without them, the old stories go away.

It’s why there was another reprinting of the Iliad and Odyssey in 2024, just a few months before The Return came out. Somebody saw money in the bank, that that movie, and now this movie, would respawn interest in the books. So far from erasing history these things PRESERVE history.

But you’ll never understand that, because you’re addicted to seeing yourself as a great defender of western civilization. You’re not. You’re an old man yelling at the clouds on an anonymous message board. I mean so am I. But I can admit it. You can’t.

So we’re done. Buh bye, have a great day. I truly hope you see this movie, I think you’ll actually like it if you can open your eyes. It’s damn good.


142 posted on 07/17/2026 3:15:09 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: discostu
You’re an old man yelling at the clouds on an anonymous message board. I mean so am I. But I can admit it. You can’t.

I'm not yelling at clouds. This is a discussion board. This is its very purpose. I know I can't convince the likes of you, someone without a soul, of anything, but there are others who might read this far who see an idea that resonates with them, that expresses a feeling they might not yet have been able to put into words. That's the value here. But principles and ideas I'm sure are things that you don't care much about. You seem to be the kind of person who would defend the presence of the illegal alien that raped and killed his daughter because people should think of the food they bring.

I find it funny that you try to characterize me, but all you're doing is telling me about yourself. You're a guy on a political discussion forum who is shocked that politics enters into almost every discussion. But hey, you go enjoy your movie, if that's all you really have.
143 posted on 07/17/2026 3:35:38 PM PDT by fr_freak (So foul a sky clears not without a storm.)
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