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To: dfwgator

Nobody thinks skin color makes people a certain way other than climate related issues tolerance maybe
But at least to me observing humanity there is no question certain groups c labeled however you like as race or ethnicity etc perform better than others

And no race other than the white one is judged for winning and expected to fall on its sword so either everyone else can catch up which they won’t or to atone for succeeding in the first place

I don’t know why whites beat everyone else on the civilization race

Climate
Geography
Neanderthal or other hominids dna

Christianity no question that helped

Doesn’t mean we don’t need to be nice

But now we have at least 25% of our white population in the west that hates itself and is willing to destroy itself

The left knows supplanting whites is the only way to retain power

And the neocons wanted cheap labor

There are some possibilities

We have fewer Muslims and our Latino males show some promise but assimilation is very low

All this has happened in an eye blink of human history and it’s unprecedented to me despite the major civilizations always fail anyhow argument

Culture or race

They are related

Cultures are created by people and generalizing that certain defined peoples have created certain cultures that outperform one another isn’t without substance

Of course the woke will claim Hunter gatherer nose bone culture is more accomplished that moon landing white culture anyhow

Just because it is lol


92 posted on 05/31/2026 10:50:03 AM PDT by wardaddy (If u hate Trump you’re stupid or clueless what’s going on We’re fighting for our civilization s)
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To: wardaddy

But at least to me observing humanity there is no question certain groups c labeled however you like as race or ethnicity etc perform better than others


Is that heredity or environment? I say a big problem black people face is because of their ‘crab bucket mentality’, get rid of that, and they might progress.


93 posted on 05/31/2026 10:52:14 AM PDT by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: wardaddy; dfwgator
wardaddy I don’t know why whites beat everyone else on the civilization race

Climate
Geography
Neanderthal or other hominids dna


Sigh.. - When Northern Europe was still largely tribal and illiterate, the world’s most advanced civilizations—Sumer, Akkad, and Babylon—were flourishing in Mesopotamia. Geography (the Tigris and Euphrates rivers) allowed for the agricultural surplus necessary for the first writing, complex law codes, and urban planning.

As I mentioned, while Europe was largely feudal, China was experiencing a proto-industrial revolution, utilizing paper money, the printing press, and advanced metallurgy.

The rise of the West, beginning roughly in the late 15th century, was not a result of biological superiority, but rather a unique convergence of institutional, economic, and geopolitical factors:

While genetics certainly influence individual cognitive traits, they do not dictate the trajectory of a civilization. If genes were the primary driver of civilizational success, we would not see the radical shifts in the global distribution of power that have occurred over the last 2,000 years.

Long before the Industrial Revolution, the Indian subcontinent was an economic powerhouse, responsible for roughly 25% of the world’s GDP in the 17th century. The Indus Valley Civilization (c. 3300–1300 BC) established one of the world’s first systems of urban planning, standardized weights, and sanitation. Later, Indian mathematicians developed the concept of zero and the decimal system—the foundational "software" that enabled modern Western mathematics and computing. These were not just scientific curiosities; they were the essential infrastructure of global commerce and logic.

For centuries, China was the undisputed center of technological innovation. By the Song Dynasty (960–1279 AD), China had already mastered sophisticated metallurgy, invented movable type printing, and developed the magnetic compass and gunpowder. When Europeans were living in agrarian societies with limited literacy, the Chinese were utilizing advanced agricultural techniques, canal systems that moved massive amounts of trade, and a meritocratic bureaucracy that served as a model for governance. The idea that Europe has always been "ahead" is a perspective that only holds if you start the clock in the mid-18th century.

Civilizations succeed when they foster a culture of inquiry, maintain stable legal institutions, and participate in a competitive global market of ideas.

These are "software" problems, not "hardware" problems. Attributing the success of the West to a static genetic or climatic advantage ignores the historical reality that these achievements were the product of specific, replicable, and often fragile cultural and political structures—not an inevitable biological destiny. Focusing on "genes, genes, genes" is a way to bypass the hard reality that civilization is an ongoing, fragile achievement that must be maintained through values and institutions

134 posted on 06/01/2026 1:58:40 AM PDT by Cronos (Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.)
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To: wardaddy

“Culture or race

They are related

Cultures are created by people and generalizing that certain defined peoples have created certain cultures that outperform one another isn’t without substance

Of course the woke will claim Hunter gatherer nose bone culture is more accomplished that moon landing white culture anyhow”

—> you’re mixingup cause and effect —> it’s not that race dictates a culture’s capacity for achievement; it’s that specific environmental pressures and institutional frameworks—like the scientific traditions, property rights, and trade networks that fueled the Enlightenment—create the conditions for innovation.

Suggesting that certain races are inherently ‘better’ at civilization ignores the historical reality that power and technological leadership have always been fluid, shifting to whichever societies mastered the most efficient systems at the time. Reducing human history to a racial hierarchy misses the actual mechanics of why civilizations rise and fall.

read “Guns, germs and Steel” by Jared Diamond

For instance, native Americans didn’t have horses or guns but quickly adopted and adapted to them.


135 posted on 06/01/2026 2:08:57 AM PDT by Cronos (Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.)
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