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To: ek_hornbeck

You’re focused on the current snapshot of socioeconomic data, but that misses the long-term arc of American history.

—> If you had looked at the data for the Irish in the 1850s or the Italians in the 1900s—groups that faced extreme prejudice and possessed low average education or wealth upon arrival—you would have seen the exact same arguments about their inability to assimilate or contribute.

The ‘equivalence’ I’m pointing to isn’t about the starting point of any specific group’s origin country; it’s about the fact that the American system has historically functioned as a filter that integrates diverse groups over generations.

When you argue that current groups are ‘not equivalent’ based on their current economic status, you’re ignoring the reality of the immigrant cycle:
- integration,
- education, and
- upward mobility
take time.

History shows that today’s ‘unwelcome’ outsider is often tomorrow’s mainstream, provided the host culture remains focused on shared values and meritocratic standards rather than static labels.

There must be strict education in American culture and values.


147 posted on 06/01/2026 7:52:13 AM PDT by Cronos (Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.)
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To: Cronos
Are you really naive enough to believe that Somalis and other people who just came out of caves a few generations ago will become assimilated and all-American as apple pie in a couple of generations?

The reason for the dysfunctional behavior of Third World immigrants and their descendants has nothing to do with "prejudice" and everything to do with their own natures and low intelligence.

148 posted on 06/01/2026 7:54:50 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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