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In reality, the only people at risk from the mullahs are their own citizens and nations close by - and THEY won’t take action.

Iranian citizens should go full Ceauçescu on their leaders. Neighboring nations should do whatever they think is right.

I disagree. The Iranians have been continually increasing their military capabilities. They have been exporting terrorism all over the world. They have repeatedly told the world they want both Israel (the little Satan) and the United States (the great Satan) to be destroyed. They ideology calls for creating an apocalyptic battle to bring about their religious vision of end times.

Their missiles have recently been shown to be able to reach European targets. The idea that we need to rely on Iran’s neighbors to stop the threat is short sighted. It is sort of like relying on Poland to stop the German threat in WWII.

They do not even have to have long range missles to deliver a nuke to the USA. A nuke delivered via a cheap freighter to withing a few miles off of New York could be very effective.

The Iranians have already killed hundreds of Americans with the strike at Marine Barracks in Lebanon in 1983, and with supplying deadly IEDs in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. There is at least some evidence they have been plotting to assassinate American presidents.

For decades the USA has taken half measures to contain the Iranian threat. We sabotaged their nuclear capabilities. Sancitions in President Trump’s first term were working.

But President Obama and Biden did the opposite, giving Iran billions of dollars and giving them a clear path to develop nuclear weapons. When an entity repeatedly tells you they are going to destroy you, and is building the weapon to do so, it is stupid to ignore them and tell their neighbors “take care of it, it is none of our business”.

I agree in places but dissent broadly.

Here’s the crux of my dissent. We have been lied to and poked and prodded by Leviathan so the Powers That Be could get their way for decades (some would say since the serpent in The Garden). We were lied to about WMD in Iraq, we were lied to about COVID, we were lied to about dirty bombs going off in Times Square for the Patriot Act, the blacks were poisoned in Tuskegee, and everyone tried real hard to justify shipping oodles of $ to Ukraine (even if they were attacked, it’s not our fight).

But on Iran…now they’re telling the truth about nukes and hitting Maine? This nation can’t deliver running water in Tehran. Further, by most accounts, they can’t even hit Germany. As for the freighter, that holds true for every other nation that hates us. Parenthetically, that freighter threat argues more for spending on the defense of our shores, not $200bn on activities over there.

Yes, Iran spouts off at the mouth, and has been since 444 days. So do lots of other nations. We’d run out of ordnance if we took out every two-bit leader who said threatening words. Further, it’s not an act of war to make threatening statements. Otherwise, dopey nations could arguably attack the USA due to Trump’s commentary.

At the same time, Obama’s $100bn in banknotes to Iran was perhaps the dumbest thing he did, and he did a LOT of dumb things. Biden’s cluelessness was par for the course.

In retrospect, we should have annihilated Iran in 1979, and we had a just reason to bomb it over Lebanon. We should not be kind to the govt of Iran like Obama and Biden. Monitor the situation, get good intelligence, build playbooks, conduct war games, and broadcast into Iran on a loop how the Romanians took care of business. There is a LOT we can do. And if Israel, or whatever nation wants to do something, I wish them well (but they’re getting no welfare/free military weapons).

Thanks for the civil discourse.