[jerod]

While you can argue all you want about the 'intent' of the 14th amendment... The language used is rather simple and very easily understood. Just keep reading it over and over again until you can figure it out.

Section 1 of the 14th Amendment

All persons born or naturalized ,in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Remember to read it over and over again for as many times as it takes... It will come to you eventually.

BTW - It doesn't say all slaves... It doesn't say all indigenous peoples... It say all.

The meaning of all

all /ôl/

"All" refers to the whole amount, quantity, or total extent of something, encompassing every member or component of a group.

[Scrambler Bob]

and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,
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Let’s read this part too.

[Theoria]

'and subject to the jurisdiction thereof'

They could have not included that part if they didn't think it was important and merely left the 'all'.

[Ferndina]

The part that says “ and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” mean anything to you? It is clearly a qualifyer to the word you espouse so abundantly, ALL.

[Nea Wood]

“And” also means and.

[marktwain]

It doesn’t say all indigenous peoples...

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Indigenous peoples, by which I suspect you mean American Indians, were not included. They got citizenship by an act of Congress about 1912 or so.

[Segovia]

Yezzzz, but then you have to consider the fact that the fourteenth amendment was written, and passed by a select few politicians from a select number of states in order to continue punishing a select other few states which they had just invaded, burned, pillaged, starved and murdered. They had not a care in the world what future destruction their handiwork caused, any more than the past destruction they had achieved. You are, today, and seemingly forever into the somewhat dubious future of this country doomed to reap the benefit of there mindless posturing. Be sure to remember them in your prayers.

[Brian Griffin]

“and of the State wherein they reside”

That restricts the meaning to those living in the USA at the time of ratification.

Chinese birth tourism babies normally never reside in the USA.

[Retain Mike]

From the article:

Thus there are two components to American citizenship: birth or naturalization in the U.S. and being subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S.

We have somehow come today to believe that anyone born within the geographical limits of the U.S. is automatically subject to its jurisdiction. But this renders the jurisdiction clause utterly superfluous and without force. If this had been the intention of the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment, they would simply have said that all persons born or naturalized in the U.S. are thereby citizens. Furthermore, the principal supporters of the Fourteenth Amendment were explicit about the meaning of “subject to the jurisdiction”: it meant owing exclusive allegiance to the U.S. and none to any other country.

[IYAS9YAS]

State wherein they reside.

And the illegal who sneaks across the border nine months pregnant and drops a kid in the nearest emergency room? Where does she "reside"?

[faithhopecharity]

“and subject to the jurisdiction thereof”

this means that the kids of parents who are not American citizens are NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT automatically citizens of USA just because mama delivered them here

if parent was subject to the jurisdiction of a foreign nation (such as an illegal immigrant, someone from another country who is here on a visitor or student visa, etcetera), any children they have here are citizens of the parent’s home country of citizenship, NOT citizens of USA

this is really all very clear to any legal scholar or even intelligent student of history, what the words meant at the time (and today, for that matter...their wording has not changed)

the wording of the amendment is NOT superfluous, and we are NOT at liberty to just pick the phrases we like and skip the ones we find inconvenient

if A14 is to be changed, there IS a constitutional amendment process for that purpose

thank you

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[itsahoot]

BTW - It doesn't say all slaves... It doesn't say all indigenous peoples... It say all.

I think I will accept what it ment from the writer of the bill Jerod, and he doesn’t agree with you. Not to mention all people excluded Indians. Your interpretation would allow foreign enemies to set up birthing centers and invade our country which you seem to encourage.

[CodeToad]

It also says, “ and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, “

You cannot just pick the words you want or understand. ALL the words matter.

[Whatever Works]

You forgot that the sentence includes the word “AND” (subject to the jurisdiction of).

Read it a few more times and you will get it.