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To: nitzy
The only comments I am seeing in this thread are how Owens is a bad person. This is leading me to believe there are no counterfactual arguments and she is likely correct (while possibly still being a bad person).

That premise is simply illogical in the light of her numerous well-known dubious and refuted claims. It is in the light of which (including:https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4366161/posts?page=1 https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4363517/posts https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4358725/posts https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4354150/posts https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4362491/posts https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4368106/posts?page=1 that all you seen are aspersions to her character and or content. But if you need some of her claims:


1. Macron‑Brigitte “conspiracy + identity theft” claims (featured on FreeRepublic)

  • Claim:

    • Brigitte Macron is not a woman; she was born male and “transitioned,” she and Emmanuel Macron are blood relatives, and he is using a stolen identity; this is the “biggest political scandal in history.”britannica+1

  • Refutation / status:

    • The Macrons have filed a defamation lawsuit (Delaware, 2025), arguing these are demonstrably false, built on recycled internet rumors, and unsupported by evidence.clarelocke+1

    • Civil‑records and biographical data show Brigitte Macron is a woman born in 1953; no credible investigation backs the “male identity” or “relatives” claims.pbs+1

Status: Conspiracy‑theoretic, defamatory, and legally challenged.


2. “Emmanuel and Brigitte ordered an assassination plot against her”

  • New FreeRepublic‑highlighted claim:

    • Owens alleges French President Emmanuel Macron ordered an assassination plot against her, with Israeli‑operative involvement, and has supplied no evidence.wikipedia+1

  • Refutation:

    • Official sources in France, Israel, and the U.S. have not substantiated any such plot.[en.wikipedia]

    • Critics and antisemitism‑watchers treat this as a reheated conspiracy trope linking Israel, elites, and “traitors,” with no factual basis.adl+1

Status: Unsubstantiated conspiracy; no evidence, and echoing dangerous antisemitic and anti‑elite motifs.


3. Charlie Kirk assassination conspiracy theories (massively expanded on FreeRepublic threads)

a) “TPUSA / Israel plotted Charlie Kirk’s death”

  • Claim (FreeRepublic‑blog/f‑chat threads):

    • Turning Point USA, Israeli‑linked actors, and “zionist‑military” forces orchestrated or enabled Kirk’s assassination.ctc.westpoint+1

    • Calvary Chapels are military‑psych‑ops designed to manipulate Christians into supporting Israel and to facilitate the killing.adl+1

  • Refutation / context:

    • No credible investigation has linked TPUSA, Israel, or churches to the killing; the claims rely on circumstantial tinfoil‑like reasoning (e.g., “military background = operation”).ctc.westpoint+1

    • A free‑Republic blogger explicitly calls this “height of absurdity,” “delusional anti‑Israel ideology,” and “gross negligence and defamation” toward Jack Hibbs and Calvary Chapels.[ctc.westpoint]

Status: Refuted by fact‑based commentators and treated as malignant conspiracy‑defamation.

b) “Charlie Kirk was a time‑traveler controlled by agents”

  • Claim (FreeRepublic f‑chat 4362491):

    • Owens suggests Charlie Kirk was a time‑traveler, with “agents” monitoring him since childhood to “change an outcome,” and killed because he tried to disturb the “space‑time continuum.”[ctc.westpoint]

  • Refutation:

    • These ideas are purely speculative and science‑fiction‑like, with no evidence.

    • Commenters on FreeRepublic note this looks like incipient insanity‑defense posturing rather than rational analysis.[ctc.westpoint]

Status: Not even a “dubious claim”—it functions as a fictional, attention‑driven narrative with no factual anchor.

c) Plaintiffs and legal pushback (TPUSA, Macrons)

  • Fact:

    • Turning Point USA has sent Owens a cease‑and‑desist based on an NDA from her speaking contract, alleging she defamed the organization for far longer than allowed.[ctc.westpoint]

    • TPUSA and the Macrons argue that even when they shared evidence correcting her, she downplayed it and continued spreading false narratives.wikipedia+1

Status: Not just a “refuted claim” but a claim that has prompted legal action and public‑reputation damage.


4. “Something biochemical happens to unmarried women”

  • Claim:

    • Something “bio‑chemically happens” to women who don’t marry or have children, and she cites Sarah Silverman, Chelsea Handler, and Kathy Griffin as evidence.[en.wikipedia]

  • Refutation:

    • No medical or scientific literature supports a universal biochemical change tied to marital status.

    • The claim is widely treated as pseudoscience and gender‑essentialist stereotyping with no data.nupoliticalreview+1

Status: Biological speculation with no empirical basis.


5. Planned Parenthood “79% in minority neighborhoods” + eugenics

  • Claim:

    • 79% of Planned Parenthood clinics are in minority neighborhoods and this is eugenic by design from Margaret Sanger.politifact+1

  • Refutation:

    • The 79% figure is misleading or misapplied; location patterns are driven mainly by need and access [supply and demand], not race‑based extermination.[politifact]

    • Historians and demographers reject the direct [key word] line between Sanger’s eugenics and modern Black‑abortion patterns.wikipedia+1

Status: Misrepresented statistics + over‑simplified history.


6. “Abortion is black‑baby extermination” / “extermination of black babies”

  • Claim:

    • Abortion = “extermination of black babies,” and Planned Parenthood is intentionally targeting Black communities.nupoliticalreview+1

  • Refutation:

    • Black‑population abortion rates highlight deep cultural and structural ruptures, especially the rise of fatherless homes and welfare dependence since the 1960s, which the welfare‑state Left entrenches, rather than a morally neutral ‘health‑care‑access’ story.”

Status: Moral exaggeration rooted in data‑misuse and alarmism.


7. Southern strategy denial

  • Claim:

    • The Republican “Southern strategy” did not happen; it is a “myth.”[en.wikipedia]

  • Refutation:

    • Political historians widely agree the Southern strategy was real: the GOP deliberately appealed to white Southern voters using racially coded language and policy.britannica+1

    • Her testimony is cited as historical revisionism in mainstream biographical sketches.britannica+1

Status: Historically refuted.


8. “Talmudic Jew” / holding up The Talmudic Jew (August Rohling)

  • Claim (FreeRepublic f‑bloggers 4358725):

    • Owens calls Ben Shapiro a “Talmudic Jew”, encourages viewers to read August Rohling’s The Talmudic Jew (1871), and implies the Talmud is a manual of anti‑Christian hatred and swindling Gentiles.[adl]

  • Refutation:

    • Rohling’s book is recognized as a notorious anti‑Jewish polemic, built on medieval libels and out‑of‑context quotes.[adl]

    • Antisemitism watchers treat this as reviving blood‑libel‑style tropes and explicitly call it antisemitic incitement.wikipedia+1

Status: Antisemitic and libelous rhetoric, not a “neutral critique.”


9. Jack Hibbs / Calvary Chapels “assassination‑plot‑linked military‑cult”

  • Claim (FreeRepublic 4354150):

    • Jack Hibbs and Calvary Chapels are linked to the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

    • Calvary Chapels are an invention of the military, a psych‑op to manipulate Christians into supporting Israel.[ctc.westpoint]

  • Refutation:

    • The blogger explicitly calls this “height of absurdity,” “delusional anti‑Israel ideology,” and “defamation.”[ctc.westpoint]

    • Historical documentation of the Calvary Chapel movement and Kirk’s own pro‑Zionist stance undercut Owens’s narrative.adl+1

Status: Conspiracy‑defamation grounded in thin or fictionalized evidence.


10. “Israel is the root of global jihadist hatred”

  • Thematic pattern (FreeRepublic‑style critique):

    • Owens often frames the Gaza war and Israel–West relations as the core catalyst of militant Islam’s hatred, implicitly suggesting that removing Israel or U.S. support for Israel would dramatically reduce Islamic‑radical anger.adl+1

  • Refutation (from our earlier geopolitical discussion):

    • Militant‑Islamist and Iran‑Russia agendas are much broader than Israel; jihadist groups target the U.S. and the West even where Israel is not central.responsiblestatecraft+2

    • Thus, blaming everything on Israel is reductionist and ignores the wider ideological and geopolitical drivers.stimson+1

Status: Oversimplification and false‑causality in explaining global jihad.


11. COVID‑19 death‑count / “CDC lying about flu‑deaths”

  • Claim:

    • The CDC “plummeted” flu deaths in 2020 and replaced them with COVID deaths, thus inflating the pandemic’s toll.firstamendment.mtsu+1

  • Refutation:

    • Fact‑checkers rejected the claim as false or misleading; CDC’s methodology and broader data do not support the idea of a massive substitution scam.[firstamendment.mtsu]

    • Courts dismissed her defamation suit against the fact‑checkers, noting their labels did not meet the high bar for defamation.[firstamendment.mtsu]

Status: False or misleading claim adjudicated by fact‑checkers and the judiciary.



- perplexity.ai/s
91 posted on 02/24/2026 11:52:42 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: daniel1212
But I should have labelled the denial of CDC “plummeted” flu deaths as itself being dubious. Note the key word in the denial "massive." #11
93 posted on 02/24/2026 11:56:08 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: daniel1212

LOL! I never heard the one about women who never marry and have children.

I guess all the Catholic nuns are ‘biochemically crazy’...


94 posted on 02/24/2026 12:03:23 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: daniel1212

“Rohling’s book is recognized as a notorious anti‑Jewish polemic, built on medieval libels and out‑of‑context quotes.[adl]”

I have not read Rohlings book—but I will say that every time I dig deeply into ADL claims I find them to be full of holes and useless propaganda.

If AI uses them as a source it is a classic case of AI hallucinations.


101 posted on 02/24/2026 1:10:55 PM PST by cgbg ("Your identity is how power treats you.")
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To: daniel1212

You have done a very bad job refuting her arguments.

1.) Offers no actual counter argument other than that they are suing her. That isn’t an argument.
2.) Appeal to authority - “no official sources have confirmed it”
3.) a.) Again appeal to authority. “no credible investigation has linked...” Then it refers to a Freeper making ad hominem attacks “delusional”, “absurd”, etc...
b.) I agree this sounds absurd but this didn’t really state her claim accurately and offer any evidence as a refutation.
c.) Again...Suing someone doesn’t prove who is right. Have either party won damages? If so, that would be an actual point. What you chose to post, is not.
4.) Appeal to authority
5.) VERY BAD response. It is saying that the 79% figure isn’t wrong, only the REASON that it is 79% is wrong. This alone makes you look very bad.
6.) Again, it just keeps getting worse. It isn’t even giving any evidence or argument. It just says, “That’s not right.”
7.)Appeal to authority “Political historians widely agree...”
8.) Ad hominem - “People have said negative things about the book. That makes it wrong.”
9.) I don’t even understand what is written here enough to comment on it.
10.) Again, the text doesn’t make sense. Is it saying that since other countries besides Israel get attacked, that means the jihadists aren’t motivated Israel?
11.)Appeal to authority - “Fact checkers rejected the claim...”

Some of these things that she says I don’t agree with, have never heard before, etc....Some I agree with her 100%. Regardless, if you think what you just posted in any way refuted her claims, you lack any critical thinking skills at all.

You should be embarrassed of what you just posted.


104 posted on 02/24/2026 2:02:58 PM PST by nitzy (I don’t trust good looking country singers or fat doctors.)
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