[BroJoeK]

FLT-bird: "East Tennessee is not the whole South.
Its not even the whole South outside of the more heavily cotton producing areas.
You seem to want to focus exclusively on East Tennessee."

Now you're not paying attention, are you?
I mentioned East Tennessee because you say your ancestors came from East Tennessee and you used it to illustrate how "happy whities" who held no slaves could still lovingly support the CSA.
Bullshite.

In fact, non-slaveholding East Tennessee was a hotbed of Unionist insurrection and was treated as such by the CSA, most notably in the Bridge Burning Hangings (Dec. 1861), the exiling of East Tennessee Unionists and the Shelton Laurel Massacre (Jan. 1863).

Perhaps more important, East Tennessee was only one such region, others including:

1. Western Virginia
2. Western North Carolina
3. Northern Georgia
4. Northern Alabama
5. Arkansas Ozarks
6. Northern Texas & Texas Hill Country

FLT-bird: "You want to talk about oppression of civilian populations that were not supportive of the war? OK.
We can do that.
It was worse in the Union under Lincoln and afterwards under the Radical Republicans in Congress than it was in the Confederate states."

Nonsense.
There are no Northern analogies to Confederate massacres or drumhead trials of civilians & surrendering soldiers at:

Great Hangings at Gainesville, Texas, October 1862:

1. East Tennessee Bridge Burner hangings November-December 1861
2. Nueces Texas Massacre of Unionist civilians, August 1862
3. Great Hangings of civilians at Gainesville, North Texas, October 1862
4. Shelton Laurel massacre of civilians, North Carolina, January 1863
5. Lawrence Massacre of civilians, Kansas, August 1863
6. Baxter Springs Kansas Massacre of surrendering Union troops, October 1863
7. Massacres of black Union troops at Fort Pillow, Tennessee, Poison Springs, Arkansas & Saltville, Virginia

FLT-bird: "How many were unlawfully arrested during the war?
This is another area where historians disagree.
The numbers vary greatly.
One scholar, Alexander Johnston, writing in the 1880s, estimated it as high as 38,000.
Other historians believe this to be exaggerated.
Some estimates are around 14,000, which seems a bit low.
It was more than likely in the 20,000-30,000 range"

Neely estimated 14,000 Union arrests and identified 4,000 arrested in the Confederacy, which is per capita the same number.

But the correct answer is: zero were arrested unlawfully in the Union, while relatively equal numbers of Southern Unionists were arrested in the Confederacy, many murdered absolutely unlawfully by Confederates.
See some examples listed above.

[FLT-bird]

Now you're not paying attention, are you? I mentioned East Tennessee because you say your ancestors came from East Tennessee and you used it to illustrate how "happy whities" who held no slaves could still lovingly support the CSA. Bullshite.

Bullshite indeed. It is you who is not paying attention. I said my ancestors lived in Tennessee at that time. I did not say East Tennessee. Take a look at a map of Tennessee and see if you can figure out where Giles County and Marshall County are.

Perhaps more important, East Tennessee was only one such region, others including: Western Virginia Western North Carolina Northern Georgia Northern Alabama Arkansas Ozarks Northern Texas & Texas Hill Country

There were some areas. Then again there were far more areas that did not have many slaves at all but which supported the Confederacy. Like most of Tennessee for example.

Nonsense. There are no Northern analogies to Confederate massacres or drumhead trials of civilians & surrendering soldiers at: Great Hangings at Gainesville, Texas, October 1862:

Nonsense indeed. There were not tens of thousands of civilians thrown into prison without charge or trial or at best trial before military tribunals only in the Confederacy unlike in the Union. Over 100 opposition newspapers were not shut down by order of Jefferson Davis. Confiscation acts were not passed in the border states and citizens were not disarmed in the border states unlike in the union.

Massacres of black Union troops at Fort Pillow, Tennessee.

There was no such "massacre". There was a running battle there with some soldiers surrendering and some still shooting. As is always the case in such situations, if some are still shooting then the other side assumes they are all threats and shoots them all. The same thing happened the other way at Drewry's Bluff and countless other places. Congress specifically questioned Nathan Bedford Forest about this and he was able to produce the receipts for the captured union soldiers he turned over to the Confederate Medical Corps. Even the Northern dominated Congress declined to charge him with anything after looking at the evidence. This was just so much propaganda put out by the Republican newspaper in Cincinnati right before the election.

Neely estimated 14,000 Union arrests and identified 4,000 arrested in the Confederacy, which is per capita the same number.

Historians have disagreed about the numbers but 14,000 is considered a low estimate for those arrested in the union. There's universal agreement among historians that Jefferson Davis suspended Habeas Corpus less often and far fewer were arrested in the Confederacy.

But the correct answer is: zero were arrested unlawfully in the Union, while relatively equal numbers of Southern Unionists were arrested in the Confederacy, many murdered absolutely unlawfully by Confederates.

The correct answer is that is pure Bullshite. Tens of thousands were arrested unlawfully in the Union. Some were tortured and some died. There were far fewer abuses of civil liberties in the Confederacy.