Posted on 02/03/2026 9:57:28 PM PST by nickcarraway
A Doberman pinscher named Penny wins best in show at the 150th annual Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show.
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150 years and running- and the Garden was packed last night....anything with dogs is terrific.
they had a tribute to Catherine O’Hara last night in the Garden between groups...
Knock, knock, knock.
Penny.
Knock, knock, knock,
Penny.
Not my cup of tea.
“the hips look overbred to me”
What does that mean?
She is a beautiful dog. Congrats to the owners.
I was wondering what “overbred” means to you. Are you saying overbred = bad stance?
The stance of the dog in the picture is trained on. They step into a square stance when moving into a trot. If you’ve seen a Dobe jump or sprint, you can tell that the leggy structure doesn’t impede straight ahead movement or power enough for jumping.
By von Stephanitz' standards (and mine), yes.
They step into a square stance when moving into a trot.
What I said.
If you’ve seen a Dobe jump or sprint, you can tell that the leggy structure doesn’t impede straight ahead movement or power enough for jumping.
Never seen a dobe or German shepherd in a KNPV, Belgian, or Mondio ring competitive trial. Don't think for a second they wouldn't be there if they excelled at it. They just don't do as well in that kind of work.
You can train any dog to stretch (the stance in the photo is a stretch). If you can’t, the dog has a problem.
All those sports are different kinds of dog showing that seem mostly meant for Belgians. Don’t know why you think Dobes should be in them.
Nevertheless web searching that list of sports and I’m seeing some Dobes and German Shepherds. GSDs always had schutzshund though.
Mr. GG2 wants to get a Doberman. IDK. Im kind of set on an Anatolian Shepherd. Imma guess Dobermans are hard on chickens. 😆
KNPV is in a class by itself because of its real-world goals. A trial takes two full days to complete. Those dogs have to bring down bad guys who will fight back, even with gunfire or being struck with a switch. They must find and detain a bad guy, calling the handler without a bite. They still have to search, recall an attack, refuse food, retrieve from water, clear a 9ft wall, object guard under the duress of distraction, and be discerning enough not to bite on a drunk being steadied by the handler.
Harvey Mudd College.
I grew up in Claremont where Havery Mudd is located. Went all through Claremont schools. Wasn’t lucky enough to go to HMC though.
Actual police work is a real world goal. Protection dog sports are a representation. They seem interesting as a training challenge but like other dog sports they tend to encourage extremes (in breeding).
People have fun with them and that’s the important part.
So are bomb dogs, drug detection dogs, SAR dogs, and flushing terrorists out of an "abandoned" building. They've got to be tough, at which the DSD has excelled. I've had them for almost 30 years long before they started to become (unfortunately for the type) "popular." I hate what's been done to them.
Exactly. (DSD = Dutch Shepherd?)
My two dachshunds in front of the fireplace roll over and yawn with jealousy.
Yep, Dutch Shepherds. They're awesome, or were.
Sadly, the good DSD breeders have such a demand to meet among black ops, military, and police work it's virtually impossible for a private party to get a good pup anymore. Those selling outside that market still screen their customers but what they're breeding is just too hyper for my taste.
Although I love dog trials, "dog sports" have done a lot of damage to working ability. They're just so driven they don't calm down enough to stay alert while doing the "boring" work for which they were originally bred (like watching over sheep without going crazy pushing them around). My latest bitch is just plain nuts, smart as hell, took to tracking almost instantly, but once the cortisol kicks in, if anything comes by within a 100 yards, she's on it and there's no getting her back. This is a dog who wanted to attack a running chainsaw (no toy saw either). I got her to leave it but it took way too long and it still feels sketchy to the point of distraction. She's uncontrollable without taking measures so horrible it would kill the life in her and I've seen too much of that. Even so, she's incredibly sweet, good to our cats, and even made friends with our outdoor feral (took her two years). I love her too much to break her with an e-collar so she has to stay tethered to me. When I first put it on her she reacted at level 5, but when focused on an intruder I had to crank it to 35 to get any reaction at all; and what I got was a "don't f---- with me" growl. One mistake with that dog and it's undoing a self-reinforcing suspicious behavior. It takes a lot of time to fix that kind of thing.
I was attacked and bitten by a Doberman walking down a street when I was 8 years old. Be careful around them
Knock, knock, knock.
Penny.
Finishing the sequence.
It’s three times! :^)
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