“So all the crap about Pretti being just a nasty protestor, not really going for his gun, etc is just legal noise: the fact that he was engaged in resisting legitimate police orders to desist and then being discovered to be armed gives them (supposedly) the right to nullify the threat...that means making you dead.”
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The ICE officers removed the gun Pretti was legally carrying, and took it away from the fight before Pretti was shot 10 times. Once the gun is gone, the threat is gone.
It was a legally unjustified killing, and it’s amazing that so many here who routinely distrust all federal law enforcement now think of ICE as their heroes.
Well, that’s the point of the post, isn’t it?
Chase Allan never went for his gun and Ashli Babbitt didn’t have one.
In both cases, it was “justifiable force”.
So we’ll see if the scenario measures up to that...but note that in lotsa previous cases, it really doesn’t matter.
ICE are my heros. OTH you are a nutless old fart.
the other officers did not know that Pretti had been disarmed
Maybe the officers fighting Pretti for the gun didn't realize the gun was already taken. They heard the "Gun! Gun! Gun!" warning and were desperately trying to find it as Pretti resisted them. Maybe Pretti, also, didn't know the gun was taken. It was a fight over a gun that was no longer in that waistband. The officers thought any second Pretti would have that gun and start torching them.