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To: PeterPrinciple

A lot of the arguments here seem to just devolve into insults, so it’s hard to tell.


41 posted on 01/29/2026 8:24:31 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

A lot of the arguments here seem to just devolve into insults, so it’s hard to tell.


and that is true, but what is the point we should be directing the “conversation” to?

That is a rhetorical question for all of us to consider.


45 posted on 01/29/2026 8:29:26 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: Jamestown1630
--- "A lot of the arguments here seem to just devolve into insults, so it's hard to tell."

Here's a non-insult, in the form of questions and citations.

King Charles. Head of C of E? Or head off all faiths within the Commonwealth nations? Let's read:

"Almost 30 years ago, then-Prince Charles declared that he wanted to be a “defender of faith,” rather than simply “Defender of the Faith,” to reflect Britain's growing religious diversity. It created a bit of a storm in a teacup, as he had clearly not meant that he would be changing the traditional role so much as adding to it. The new King is a particular type of Anglican: one that on the one hand, is incredibly tied to the notion of tradition; but on the other, has shown a great deal of affinity for both Eastern Orthodox Christianity and Islam, two religions clearly outside the Anglican fold that he must now titularly lead." Source: King Charles III’s Unique Relationship with Islam Could Bridge Divides Time, 13 September 2022

So one might extract a questionm for you individually as for each of us.

Are you a "defender of faith" of do you see yourself as a "defender of your faith." Personally I would hope for the latter, as the former phrase is a close to meaningless as one can get, given that some have faith in their agnosticism, and others -- one within my extended family -- faith of a sort in his constant professions of his atheism.

One reads further:

"The harsh reality is that the C of E has lost 160,000 attendees across an average week including Sundays since 2019 when 854,000 people attended its churches. Since 2003, the all-age average weekly attendance has declined from 1,126,000.

"With the population of England now around 67 million, 685,000 worshippers in 2023 means barely 1 per cent of the people living in the nation are turning up to C of E churches."

Source: Ignore the cheerful spin - the Church of England is in unrelenting decline Christian Today, 20 May 2024.

So one may cogently ask: what is the defense and what is being defended? And how is that defense doing, as the Dame Bishop leads less than 1 percent of the UK's population?


49 posted on 01/29/2026 8:44:52 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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