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To: MtnClimber

The EU needs cheap Russian gas to survive. Russia needs EU markets to sell. Neither need the US. I wouldn’t doubt they’re conspiring against us while acting as though they’re implacable enemies.


7 posted on 01/17/2026 5:55:43 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski; MtnClimber

Jan Sobieski “The EU needs cheap Russian gas to survive”

The claim that “The EU needs cheap Russian gas to survive” is outdated and no longer reflects reality. The European Union has dramatically reduced its dependence on Russian energy since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, successfully weathering the energy crisis through diversification, efficiency measures, and accelerated nuclear etc. While Russian gas still plays a residual role (around 13-15% of imports in 2025), the EU is actively phasing it out entirely by 2027, proving it can—and is—surviving (and thriving) without it.

### Key Facts on the Shift (as of late 2025/early 2026)
- **Pre-2022 vs. Now**: In 2021, Russia supplied ~40-45% of EU gas. By 2025, this fell to ~13% overall (including both pipeline and LNG), worth about €15 billion annually—down sharply from peaks.

Pipeline gas mostly via TurkStream to a few countries are declining.

- **Diversification Success**:
- **Norway** is now the top supplier (~30-33% of imports, mostly reliable pipeline gas).
- **United States** dominates LNG (~45-56% of LNG imports, with record volumes in 2025).
- Other sources like Algeria, Qatar, Azerbaijan, and the UK have filled gaps.
- EU LNG imports hit record highs in 2025, with nearly 60% from the US.

- **Demand Reduction & Renewables**: EU gas consumption dropped ~20% from 2021-2024 due to efficiency, conservation, and renewables growth (e.g., wind/solar now major players in power generation). This structural decline helps offset any short-term price pressures.

- **Phase-Out Timeline**: The EU’s REPowerEU roadmap (updated May 2025) and a December 2025 agreement ban new Russian gas deals, stop spot contracts by end-2025, halt LNG imports by end-2026/early 2027, and end pipeline gas by autumn 2027. National plans are in place, and the bloc is on track.

Yes, some countries (e.g., Hungary, Slovakia) remain more exposed due to legacy pipelines but they are building more nuclear power plants. Energy prices spiked in 2022-2023 but have stabilized (though higher than pre-war), and the shift boosted energy security by ending Russia’s ability to “weaponize” supplies (as seen in 2022 cutoffs).

Far from “needing” Russian gas, the EU has spent billions more on alternatives (e.g., US LNG) precisely to avoid funding Russia’s war machine—while building a more resilient, greener system. The old dependency was a vulnerability, not a necessity.

**Bottom line**: The EU isn’t just surviving without cheap Russian gas—it’s actively choosing independence, even if it costs more short-term. The transition proves the claim is a myth from the pre-2022 era.


8 posted on 01/17/2026 6:27:17 AM PST by Cronos
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