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To: Golden Eagle

I never said that all Muslims were bad or that all Islamic religious passages were bad.

“I’ll give a guess, of actual members, of 10-20 million ... Sounds like a lot, doesn’t it? Until you realize, there are over 1 billion with ‘B’ Muslims out there. Then, it’s only like 1-2 percent. Not much.”

Compare the percentage to the Christian percentage. Or the Jewish percentage. I think you will find it is much more.

I remember mentioning that Mao had murdered 75 to 100 million. The response was “Oh, it’s not so much on a percentage basis.”

I won’t rule out percentages, but I won’t be ruled by them either. One can’t blithely murder one or a million and say “small percentage.”

“if all of Islam is guilty.” Not all Islamic passages are at fault. Nor are all Muslims guilty. However, the problem lies with Islam. Mohammed was a poor choice of moral exemplar.

Some have suggested that Islam needs its reformation. One notable expert said that Islam reformed is Islam destroyed. I don’t know who is right.

As a practical matter, stop importing Muslims to the west. Make sure you are not indirectly subsidizing terror. That is harder than it sounds. Deport clerics that radicalize. Stop pretending that all religions are basically the same, equally peaceful. There are many practical acts that are far short of war. Surrender, our current path, is not the answer.


54 posted on 12/22/2025 2:55:04 PM PST by ChessExpert (Infidels of the world unite against the evil that is Islam.)
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To: ChessExpert
Not all Islamic passages are at fault. Nor are all Muslims guilty.

As I've repeatedly said, this is my main point, and on it we appear to agree. Where we appear to disagree, is on your desire to still label the entire muslim faith as evil, which by extension labels all muslims as guilty of the same evil, in contrast to what you just said above. It's no different than if someone wants to label all Christians as evil, based on the blatant and unapologetic sins of some Mormons, or based on the Catholic Priests who sexually abused minors, for example. Blame those who are guilty, but not every single Christian, based solely on mere association, that is often actually very distant.

As a practical matter, stop importing Muslims to the west. Make sure you are not indirectly subsidizing terror. That is harder than it sounds. Deport clerics that radicalize. Stop pretending that all religions are basically the same, equally peaceful. There are many practical acts that are far short of war.

I mostly agree with this, and said on this thread before our exchange that even though the entire Islamic religion shouldn't be condemned in every circumstance for the actions of a few, that it still may make good sense for the government to penalize that religion in response, in certain situations, if the risk to Americans warrant it. For example, we should without question BAN muslims originating from Iran. That does not however, mean that every single muslim originating from Saudi Arabia or Jordan should be denied access to America. Those countries are our allies, not enemies. At least at this point, and it's in our interest to keep it that way.

55 posted on 12/22/2025 3:17:02 PM PST by Golden Eagle (Principles, not partisanship)
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