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To: Dr. Franklin
Allen Dulles head of the OSS in Berne Switzerland, (and later head of the CIA) negotiated the end of the war with the top Nazis, and allowed them to escape to South America, and ignored their presence there. No other interpretation is credible. Fascists in South America were a defense against communism, and for Dulles and the CIA, that was a good outcome.

This is a bunch of Bull Crap. Allen Dulles negotiated to surrender of German troops in Italy in 1945. He had nothing to do with the Nazis in Germany surrendering. He was not the head of the OSS, William Donovan was, and Dulles didn’t become head of the CIA until 8 years later in 1953 when Eisenhower appointed him.

10 posted on 12/21/2025 9:15:45 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Ditto

Excellent history! Remember its much more fun to blame everything on the favorite boogieman - CIA.


12 posted on 12/21/2025 9:18:11 AM PST by Reily
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To: Ditto
Allen Dulles negotiated to surrender of German troops in Italy in 1945. He had nothing to do with the Nazis in Germany surrendering. He was not the head of the OSS, William Donovan was,

I didn't write that he was exactly. I did note that he was stationed as the OSS head in Berne, Switzerland, which was neutral in WWII. Therefore, Switzerland was the perfect place to negotiate the peace. Those negotiations have been kept secret for decades. The peace was negotiated, not unilaterally imposed by "uncondtional surrender".
36 posted on 12/21/2025 10:46:16 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Ditto
head of the OSS in Berne Switzerland

I think they're trying to say Dulles was the head of the OSS station in Switzerland.

47 posted on 12/21/2025 11:09:00 AM PST by rfp1234 (E porcibus unum)
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To: Ditto
The CIA hired known Nazi war criminals to spy on our enemies. They hired Reinhard Gehlen, Hitler's top intelligence officer during the war. It was called the Gehlen Organization. He hired his own spies, and the CIA never knew who they were, or who they were paying. As time went on, even Gehlen didn't know who was employed, because people he had hired, were hiring their own people, and so on. Many SS, S.A., and former German police were being paid by taxpayer money, and they set up their own ratline to help Nazis escape Germany. Josef Mengele was one of them.

When the CIA realized that the majority of the "intelligence" they were being fed by this group was gossip, rumors, and made-up crap, they ended the organization. Gehlen went on to run Konrad Adenauer's intelligence office in West Germany. He was forced to resign in 1968 when a German spy he had hired turned out to be a Russian mole.

The CIA also hired Klaus Barbie, known as "The Butcher of Lyon." They moved him and his family to South America. When French officials asked the CIA about Barbie's whereabouts, they lied and said they had no idea where he was. He remained on the CIA's payroll until it became an embarrassment for the agency. Nazi Hunters Beate and Serge Klarsfeld had discovered Barbie in Bolivia, and raised a big stink about it. Barbie was arrested in 1983 and turned over to French authorities, tried and convicted in 1987. France had gotten rid of its death penalty some time before, so he was sentenced to prison. He died in 1991 at 77 years of age of Leukemia.

54 posted on 12/21/2025 12:12:31 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Ditto
Allen Dulles negotiated to surrender of German troops in Italy in 1945. He had nothing to do with the Nazis in Germany surrendering. He was not the head of the OSS, William Donovan was, and Dulles didn’t become head of the CIA until 8 years later in 1953 when Eisenhower appointed him.

Then you have moon landing deniers or Nazi bases on the moon.

60 posted on 12/21/2025 12:56:48 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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