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To: MtnClimber

Actually she is correct. Policing in America is supposed to be a reactive or response to a crime. Any prevention is incidental to presence. With individual liberty comes individual responsibility. The only way to prevent crime in a structural processes way is to interfere with individual liberties.


6 posted on 12/10/2025 6:20:10 AM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) Leftists bring lies and chaos to a truth fight. )
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To: blackdog

While I would submit that you’re technically (and ideologically) correct, that only works if humankind is morally and ethically “good”.

Since we’re not, police sting operations, traffic enforcement patrol vehicles and the like still need to be in view, because laws — as a general rule — were created in response to people trying to get away with something bad... and even despite those laws, we have a large segment of our society that will continue to try and subvert order, morality, and civilization whenever police are not present.

For one tiny example, if she was in charge, virtually every retail store would be looted on a regular basis. So yeah, she’s an idiot.


13 posted on 12/10/2025 6:30:53 AM PST by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: blackdog

I agree with you. She is correct, but she isn’t intelligent enough to know it.


15 posted on 12/10/2025 6:32:29 AM PST by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: blackdog

blackdog wrote: “Actually she is correct. Policing in America is supposed to be a reactive or response to a crime. Any prevention is incidental to presence.”

Actually, she is correct.
Just try suing a police department for failing to prevent a crime.


26 posted on 12/10/2025 6:46:18 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things thePy agree with.)
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To: blackdog

A strong police presence can be a deterrent to crime IF criminals believe they are more likely to be caught and prosecuted. A huge problem we have now is liberal DAs that let criminals plead down & judges that allow violent criminals to be out on bail or no bail to commit more crimes.


35 posted on 12/10/2025 7:19:11 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: blackdog
With individual liberty comes individual responsibility.

And therein lies the problem. Many leftist States enact laws which severely inhibit We the People from defending ourselves, from acting on our responsibilities. Any "law" which infringes on our fundamental God-given human right to keep and bear arms and to use those arms in defense of self or others, is necessarily increasing crime.

43 posted on 12/10/2025 7:46:35 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: blackdog
Actually she is correct. Policing in America is supposed to be a reactive or response to a crime. Any prevention is incidental to presence. With individual liberty comes individual responsibility. The only way to prevent crime in a structural processes way is to interfere with individual liberties.

You're right. Law enforcement likes to talk about crime prevention, but in reality, about all they can do is respond to crimes already committed. Crime is only prevented when people restrain from crime because they're afraid they'll be caught and punished. Nowadays, they don't care if they're caught because they know the left-wing courts won't punish them.

49 posted on 12/10/2025 8:09:59 AM PST by libertylover (The HBM (Has Been Media) is almost all AGENDA-DRIVEN and HATE-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: blackdog

I believe there has been a court ruling that says police are not legally required to maintain public safety, ie not liable if and when a crime occurs.


52 posted on 12/10/2025 8:26:20 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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