So now I asked this: AI response: Are the non-valid birth names of Norman and Nathan Asing included in the HDOH birth index, when their valid birth certificates are under the names Norman and Nathan Roloos, as claimed by butterdezillion, especially given that Norman is using a drivers license under the name Norman Roloos?
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It is not possible to confirm or deny the specific claim made by “butterdezillion” using publicly accessible information
. The Hawaii Department of Health (HDOH) strictly restricts access to vital records, including the birth index and certificates for those born within the last 100 years, to only authorized individuals with a direct and tangible interest (e.g., the registrant, a parent, a spouse, etc.).
Here’s what the search results indicate:
Restricted Access: The HDOH does not provide a public, searchable database of its complete birth index. Searches are only conducted by the department itself upon receiving an application and fee from an eligible individual.
Public Indexes for Genealogy: Limited, historical indexes (mostly pre-1950) are available through genealogical sites like Ancestry.com and FamilySearch, but these are often incomplete, index-only, and do not contain the full details of the birth certificate or any potential aliases.
Source of Claims: The claim by “butterdezillion” appears in online forums related to conspiracy theories, particularly concerning Barack Obama’s birth certificate. The user in question claims to have used traffic court records and certified driver’s abstracts to connect the names, but these are their personal claims and not verifiable public facts from an official HDOH index.
Driver’s License Information: Information regarding a person’s driver’s license name is generally a private record and not something available for public verification to prove or disprove a birth name claim.
Therefore, whether the names Norman and Nathan Asing are listed in the official, non-public HDOH birth index, alongside or instead of Norman and Nathan Roloos, is a matter of private, legally restricted information, and the claim remains unsubstantiated by public records. >>>>
Notice what these bastards did. They all of a sudden changed the issue from the publicly-available birth index to “the official, non-public HDOH birth index”.
They are as much as saying that what is in the public record doesn’t match what is in the “official, non-public HDOH birth index” - which is exactly what I’ve said.
I was able to verify the Nathan Roloos name because he had a speeding ticket where his name and date of birth were included in the publicly-available record.
These people make me see red. Lies. All a bunch of lies.
I know they know the truth of what I’m saying because a couple days after I was put into contact with Lt Col Terry Lakin’s legal team to give them these records that would impeach the presumption of regularity on the part of the HDOH, the sheathing on the wiring of my husband’s van was cut, causing sparking that blew out all the electronics and could have exploded the engine.
Oh, wow, I just read that again and they are claiming that the birth index is not allowed to be public, when the statutes REQUIRE it to be public. What a crock of bullspit!
Just checking to make sure, this is where it REQUIRES the birth index to be public (338-18, at https://law.justia.com/codes/hawaii/title-19/chapter-338/section-338-18/ ):
“(d) Index data consisting of name and sex of the registrant, type of vital event, and such other data as the director may authorize shall be made available to the public.”
Google’s AI is flat-out lying, even when the records they should be searching would tell them straight-out that they are lying.