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Deja Vu? Climate Study Hints at New Ice Age
Legal Insurrection ^ | 13 Nov, 2025 | Leslie Eastman

Posted on 11/14/2025 7:43:40 AM PST by MtnClimber

The 1970s called, they want their climate panic back.

Legal Insurrection readers will recall that this summer I noted that every hot summer day was being reported as a climate apocalypse, with new phrases being created to generate clicks and panic.

Now that winter is coming, its time to retool the narrative. Climate scientists say a vital Atlantic current could falter within decades, an event they claim might spark a new ice age, according to a controversial new paper.

The apocalyptic predictions came as a result of a collaboration between researchers at the Institute of Oceanology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (IOCAS) and the University of California, San Diego — weeks after one-time climate alarmist Bill Gates publicly downplayed the impact of temperature fluctuations on the planet.

Per the new findings, the at-risk current in question is the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation or AMOC, a “conveyor belt of the ocean” that funnels warm water toward the ocean surface — from the tropics to the Northern Hemisphere.

This current, which includes the Gulf Stream that runs from the Gulf of Mexico to the US East Coast and across the Atlantic to Europe, helps maintain the mild climate of Europe, the UK, and the US East Coast.

The study stated that the source of this marine temperature regulator, the Greenland Ice sheet, is being thawed amid warming temperatures, causing meltwater runoff to leach into the North Atlantic — leading to stagnation.

The Gulf Stream is near collapse, scientists warn — inviting a new ice age and rising sea levels https://t.co/mtZqDdQwce pic.twitter.com/37bikEYbXU

— New York Post (@nypost) November 12, 2025

The paper is published as a Nature Briefing, in its the journal Communications Earth & Environment. To begin with, there are a couple of concerns I have outside of the actual analysis.

China and its scientists have a keen interested in promoting climate panic in the West, as they can then sell us solar panels and EV while they build coal plants. The author list raises by level of skepticism exponentially.

Furthermore, “Nature” is now experiencing a backlash by real scientists who are tired of touting ideology. Climate claims of this magnitude, projecting weather and currents decades into the future have of history….of being absolutely bogus. The brand has been damaged by DEI, and the effects are just starting to be seen.

Let’s turn to the paper for a few moments and review what the authors say about the AMOC collapse creating a new period of glaciation.

The researchers assert that mid-depth warming (1000–2000 meters below sea level) in the equatorial Atlantic is a clear sign that a major current called AMOC is slowing down, mainly due to “human-driven” climate change. They argue that surface temperatures in the ocean can be very noisy and affected by short-term local weather, making them unreliable for spotting long-term trends. By looking deeper, these scientists claim that found that sustained warming between 1000 and 2000 meters in the equatorial Atlantic and say its a much clearer signal of AMOC slowdown, since it’s less impacted by short-term variability.

The rest of the analysis relies on computer models.

It is theorized that the AMOC weakens or collapses, less heat reaches northern Europe and the Arctic, so winter temperatures can plunge several degrees, even as other parts of the world remain warm or get warmer. Colder conditions cause more sea ice to expand southward from the Arctic, reaching the coasts of northern Europe. Sea ice reflects sunlight instead of absorbing it, which amplifies cooling—this is called the “ice-albedo feedback”. As a result, the region loses more heat to space, and temperatures drop further.

Thus, a new ice age begins. It’s the 1970’s all over again.

Over the years, I’ve been told the following eco-disasters would destroy earth (in order): New Ice Age, Acid Rain, Ozone Hole, Global Warming, Global Weirding, Climate Change, New Ice Age. The solution for each was to give the UN more power, end capitalism, and expand government.

— Jon Gabriel (@exjon) November 12, 2025

Meteorologist Chris Martz has an analysis with data that refutes these claims.

No. No, it probably isn’t.

Let me explain. . .

One of the latest (and most persistent) climate scares is that the Atlantic Multidecadal Overturning Oscillation (AMOC) is on the verge of “collapse” in the coming decades. The implication of this would be that Europe is sent into… https://t.co/7Esp16EhbJ pic.twitter.com/g0VT6ZEiLM

— Chris Martz (@ChrisMartzWX) November 12, 2025

In a nutshell, the AMOC is stable and collapse is unlikely to happen quickly or without extraordinary conditions. For example, using air-sea heat flux as an indicator, another team of researchers found no evidence of AMOC weakening between 1963 and 2017. Many climate models only show an AMOC collapse if much more freshwater is added to the Atlantic than occurred even during massive past ice sheet melts, and such model collapses usually take several hundred years to appear.

However, the hysteria is beginning. Iceland has already designated this theoretical scenario a national security threat.

Iceland has designated this the potential collapse of a major Atlantic Ocean current system a national security concern and an existential threat, enabling its government to strategize for worst-case scenarios, the country’s climate minister told Reuters.

The Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, or AMOC, current brings warm water from the tropics northward toward the Arctic, and the flow of warm water helps keep Europe’s winters mild.

Iceland has declared threat to Atlantic Ocean current a national security risk, a potential collapse of which could trigger a modern-day ice age, with winter temperatures across Northern Europe plummeting to new cold extremes https://t.co/33MOWrq2aS pic.twitter.com/ZhPgbGpWze

— Reuters (@Reuters) November 12, 2025

If globalist bureaucrats and their media minions can’t stoke fear about heat waves, then it’s time to stoke them about snow and ice…in time for winter.

AMOC fear-mongering is again in the news since hurricane season is no longer a climate alarmist talking point. There is no data showing the AMOC ever collapsed, plus snazzy graphs of AMOC forecasts are as useless as Al Gore’s award winning forecasts. https://t.co/TuAc0aZaHV pic.twitter.com/yNxtU4WwHN

— John Shewchuk (@_ClimateCraze) November 8, 2025


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1 posted on 11/14/2025 7:43:40 AM PST by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber
We are currently in an Ice Age, Interglacial Period. What they are talking about is entering an Ice Age, Glacial Period, and we are due for this within a few thousand years.

Ice Ages

Recent Glacial and Interglacial Periods


2 posted on 11/14/2025 7:44:32 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

I am old enough to remember “THE GREENHOUSE EFFECT!”
When it did not happen then came “THE COMING ICE AGE!”
When that did not show up it was “GLOBAL WARMING!”
When that did not happen it was “CLIMATE CHANGE!
Now we are going back to “THE COMING ICE AGE!” again.
https://blog.sciandnature.com/2024/11/a-mini-ice-age-could-hit-earth-by-2030.html

And it is always OUR FAULT because we do not pay enough in TAXES TO STOP IT!


3 posted on 11/14/2025 8:00:32 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE MENTAL HOSPITALS CLOSED IN THE 1970s!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I am old enough to remember


you missed some, zero population growth, nuclear energy disaster, we are going to die from pollution, we are going to starve, mutually assured destruction and there were more.......................


4 posted on 11/14/2025 8:04:31 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
A very fine summary. I had a subscription to Scientific American and read it cover to cover, so long ago and long since canceled.

Hot! Send money! Cold! Send money! Change! Send money! Experts say! Send more money! Cold again! Send money! Seas rising! Send money!

In this time, from Event 201 and lockdowns, to globalist this and internationalist that, and the "climate" summits, it has come down to "do as we say" and "send money." Every damn one of them. Seeking more power and more cash flow from the easily-stampeded rubes.

5 posted on 11/14/2025 8:09:44 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: MtnClimber

I can’t wait for the climate change cultist’s tortured explanations of how CO2 caused global warming is now ushering in a new Ice Age and how we must redouble our efforts to end fossil fuels if we are to save the planet from climate change catastrophe now switching from boiling oceans to frozen ones.


6 posted on 11/14/2025 8:46:16 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: PeterPrinciple

Don’t forget acid rain and the ozone hole......


7 posted on 11/14/2025 4:54:37 PM PST by billphx (“Political correctness is tyranny with a happy face” Charlton Heston)
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