Wall Street legend Gary Shilling warns 'tremendous speculation' is setting up stocks to tumble 30%

Business Insider ^ | October 22, 2025 | The Ron Mohamed

[Nextrush]

Political motivation in all this? To hurt Trump?

[Nextrush]

Trump manipulates his messaging to talk stocks up.

Do his enemies message to talk stocks down?

[SaveFerris]

[The AI shell game will not end well.]

I just can’t wait until they put AI
in charge of nuclear-tipped ICBMs

And then it becomes self-aware
at 2:14 a.m.....

In a panic, they’ll try to shut it down...

[catnipman]

Grock: “Quantitative analyses peg his broad market forecast accuracy at around 34-38% — worse than random chance (50%) for up-or-down calls”

[Mariner]

There’s a froth developing and 30% is not unreasonable.

[montag813]

Colossus: The Forbin Project did it first.

[SaveFerris]

Such an awesome movie

With Hans Gudegast

Just after he became Eric Braeden

I watched Rat Patrol a bit back then

[Red Badger]

There has been rumors for years that they are going to remake that movie with modern special effects. It would be great!...........

[Red Badger]

Victor Newman!...............

[JesusIsLord]

The S&P 500 lost 57% of its value in the 2007-08 crash. It took 5.5 years for it to recover to its pre-crash level. If we experience a 30% loss as predicted, hopefully we'll see a faster recovery compared to 2007-08.

Here's the problem/challenge I see. If you sell your stocks to avoid a drop in the market, you will pay 15% tax of your gain. If you hold (don't sell) and it takes 2-3 years to recover - will you do better than if you had sold to avoid a recession?

I believe your time-horizon for investing is the key to answering the sell or hold question.

Like many investors, I bailed in the 2000 dot.com recession and the 07-08 recession. Mistake both times !!!!

[Larry Lucido]

“Economists have predicted 5 of the last 2 recessions.”

Yes. And I’ve noted that Biblical prophesy experts have predicted two hundred or so of the last zero raptures.

[Larry Lucido]

"predicted the US housing market's collapse in 2008"

[dennisw]

For sure food inflation is as bad as under Biden Zombie. I see examples every time I am in the grocery store. One sticker shock was a bag of prepped coleslaw vegetables went from 1.69 to 2.09. Simple hamburger meat is climbing all the time.

[ChuckHam]

There’s more upside at this point IMO. I’m going to let it ride for a bit longer and then hold for a while.

[Right_Wing_Madman]

I’m with Gary. Shades of the dot.com bubble. Irrational exuberance.

[crusty old prospector]

Not that Gary.