Posted on 10/31/2025 11:40:53 PM PDT by RandFan
@MJTruthUltra
Crazy times…
Elon Musk says eventually “Working will be Optional”, and everyone will be given a Universal High-Income
- Jobs, where there is no physical work involved, will be eliminated first.
- working will be optional because of robots and AI
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It’s not ME saying this, but experts in the AI field.
They won’t have to hunt us down, just shut off our electricity, water, critical urban/suburban infrastructure and - like the aftermath of a mid-continental suborbital EMP - over 90% of all US residents will be dead inside of a year.
I don’t think the trades will go away. A computer will not fix your broken pipe, or faulty wire, or leaky roof. It may, however, replace your shady lawyer, your greedy investment broker, or your lazy government worker.
Those rooting for this have the most to lose.
EC
The Maslow of Heart of Darkness?
And what does Musk propose to do when the masses of useless humans grow restless and rise up against their AI overlords?
Maybe he has a more permanent solution in mind.
A lot of those Silicon Valley types think that a universal income will just solve all the human problems. What they don't take into account is that work and the need to work is how humans derive meaning and the will to live. Take that away and humans are nothing but animals in a zoo.
this
"One of the possibilities is the Terminatior scenario. It is not zero percent."
Prohetic? From 1909.
https://www.amazon.com/Machine-Stops-M-Forster/dp/1434442047
“The Machine Stops,” posits a technology-dependent humanity now living underground, its every need serviced by machines. But what happens if—or when—the machines stop? “The Machine Stops” was named one of the greatest science fiction novellas published before 1965 by the Science Fiction Writers of America.
The 42 million on SNAP will just love that. They don’t really work anyway.
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yep us retires think work is for you guys. Send me my robot.
Musk is absolutely psychotic and why anybody here takes him seriously at all is a disgrace.
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How many billions are you worth from all your endeavors?
Oh, I don’t know, because maybe he is a highly successful businessman that has been right on numerous occasions?
All this about the 42 million: a good portion are seniors who can no longer work, another portion are people with disabilities who can’t work, etc.
Lumping them all together with the willfully homeless, ghetoqueens and ghetopotomy with their pimps, drunks, drugers, and dealers is unfair and plain wrong.
If humans are not needed for work, they are not needed at all. They become useless animals at a zoo - soon-to-be extinct, outdated relics of curiosity.
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they likely said that about the first guy to build a bridge over a major river - I mean what about all the water taxis and ferries that one bridge put out of work? All those people must have just wandered off, dropped on their backs and died.
it will be like before the cell phone and after the cell phone. All else is drama, hyperbole, confusion, and idle speculation.
And what does Musk propose to do when
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He’ll be on Mars, so its their problem.
I think Musk is right, but the transition will be really bad.
I’ve been retired for 23 years and will be able to survive.
If you can’t get a job you will lose your house.
Then everything gets messy.
I will buy a few Optimus Robots to help me around the yard, mow the lawn, feed and muck the horses, put the chickens away, weed my vegetable garden, and paint my sheds.
There are always too many maintenance jobs for me to finish my projects.
Also I Star Trek, everyone has a job and is enthusiastic about doing it. Even the red shirts would beam down to the planet happily, where assured death will result.
That is unrealistic.
A former neighbor of mine was a white collar contract employee at GM in the late ‘90s. He had a 2-year degree in Applied Sciences, Automotive Design, loved the CAD work and corporate training, but was beginning to notice how little “protected class” employees had to do in order to keep up with him. He also said that at first, he wanted to be hired by GM but later on he changed his mind and went to work for a major defense contractor in Florida instead.
Work is required as part of the human condition. Idle hands are a threat to a safe and stable society. That said, single payor health care and universal basic income are likely to define future political debate if AI becomes as pervasive as predicted. So should conservatives stick their head in the sand and scream no? Or do conservatives need to somehow get ahead of the curve to be able to shape the narrative and design of the programs that may be inevitable ?
Star Trek is SciFi Fantasy BS. The economies in Firefly are much more believable.
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