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Why Use a Handgun for Bear Defense — Because They Work
AmmoLand ^ | October 27, 2025 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 10/30/2025 7:16:25 AM PDT by marktwain

One of the significant advantages of using handguns to defend against bear attacks is that defense with a handgun is far more likely to result in a dead bear. This is a highly desirable result. Bears that attack humans should be killed. Killing aggressive bears is a way to condition the bear population to avoid humans.

The false premise implicit in the argument for non-lethal defenses against bears is that there are such small numbers of bears that killing a bear removes a valuable resource from the bear genetic pool. This view had some legitimacy about 1975-1980, when the population of grizzly bears in the lower 48 states was at its lowest level. This is no longer true.

Bear populations are on the rise all over the world. None of the three bears that live in North America has ever been endangered. Even the populations of grizzly bears that lived in the lower 48 states were only listed as “threatened”, not endangered. Today, we have at least three times as many grizzly bears in the lower 48 as in 1977. The grizzly bear population in the lower 48 is increasing at a significant rate. It is well over 2,000 bears and is probably approaching 3,000 grizzly bears.

When grizzly bears were not protected in the United States, only those bears that learned to avoid humans survived. By 1900, grizzly bears had become wary of humans and even dogs. Once bears were given artificial protection from humans, they started to lose their fear of humans. The grizzly bears in the lower 48 states kill humans at 30 times the rate per bear of grizzly bears in Alaska. The small population of grizzly bears in the lower 48 states is responsible for more human fatalities than the larger population of grizzly bears in Alaska.

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To: marktwain

** Should be lower 48 states, not lower 49... **

Is that you, Borax?


21 posted on 10/30/2025 8:03:52 AM PDT by Surrounded_too (LE)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
I still like .357

I don't live in bear country, but would want the largest caliber hand gun I could get. A .45 has more stopping power per bullet. So, if I may only get one shot, bigger is better. With an automatic, more shots are possible. That appears to be the trade off.
22 posted on 10/30/2025 8:03:59 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: yesthatjallen

Maybe he has Bearnoia. :p


23 posted on 10/30/2025 8:06:47 AM PDT by GMThrust
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To: yesthatjallen

Do you hate bears? You keep posting articles about killing bears.


It kinda grew. It turns out lots of people are fascinated with large wild creatures who want to kill and/or eat you.


24 posted on 10/30/2025 8:20:47 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: yesthatjallen

Hate is a Strong word.


25 posted on 10/30/2025 8:27:20 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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To: yesthatjallen

By the Way IT’S SELFDEFENSE!


26 posted on 10/30/2025 8:28:00 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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To: Williams
What, no grizzlies in Hawaii?

You would think at least they would get the occasional stray polar bear who floated there on an iceberg caused by global warming….

27 posted on 10/30/2025 8:34:19 AM PDT by dznutz
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To: Dr. Franklin

.357 has a ton of penetration and high speed.

I’ve had a couple of .45 and can attest shooting at anything over 30 feet you have to factor in bullet drop.

The bullets are big but they are pretty slow.


28 posted on 10/30/2025 8:48:03 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
I’ve had a couple of .45 and can attest shooting at anything over 30 feet you have to factor in bullet drop.

The larger caliber is needed exactly within 30 feet for a charging bear. Beyond that a rifle would be more accurate. A shotgun with slugs work, but in case of surprise may not be handy.
29 posted on 10/30/2025 10:13:31 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Dr. Franklin

A .357 will penetrate much deeper. A .45 is designed for humans not bears. .357 muzzle energy is almost double what a .45 is.

Look at the ballistics. .44, 10mm and .357 magnum are tops for muzzle velocity. Muzzle velocity trumps bullet weight for muzzle energy.


30 posted on 10/30/2025 10:45:55 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Look at the ballistics. .44, 10mm and .357 magnum are tops for muzzle velocity. Muzzle velocity trumps bullet weight for muzzle energy.

Basic physics is that Force=Mass x acceleration. A bullet with less mass requires less energy to reach a higher acceleration, but at the same velocity as a bullet with more mass has less force. A .22 would have a higher muzzle velocity than the larger bullets you reference, but hits with less force. The force is what is important, not the velocity. If I need to stop a charging bear, I want to hit it with maximum force, not a bullet with the highest velocity.
31 posted on 10/30/2025 10:58:48 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: marktwain

Pooh Bear is well straped. He keeps a cap gun with him.


32 posted on 10/30/2025 11:07:16 AM PDT by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Dr. Franklin

Sorry, but KE = 0.5 × m × v^2

Kenetic Energy = Mass * Velocity squared. Velocity wins.


33 posted on 10/30/2025 11:42:49 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: AlaskaErik

.41 Magnum is a better cartridge for bears, but 10mm provides more capacity.

I don’t think a load like this is out there for 10mm.

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=90


34 posted on 10/30/2025 12:06:29 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Sorry, but KE = 0.5 × m × v^2 Kenetic Energy = Mass * Velocity squared. Velocity wins.

For stopping power?
"The kinetic energy of an object is equal to the work, or force (F) in the direction of motion times its displacement (s), needed to accelerate the object from rest to its given speed."
Kinetic Energy
So it requires more kinetic energy to accelerate a larger mass. Thus, it requires more energy to get an 18 wheeler to go 55 MPH than a motorcycle, but once it reaches that velocity it acquires more force if it collides with another object than the motorcycle. If the 18 wheeler collides with another object at 55 MPH it will do far more damage than the motorcycle. It's the same with the bullets. The larger mass bullet travelling at the same velocity as a lesser mass bullet will hit with more force and do more damage to the target. It's just physics.
35 posted on 10/30/2025 12:30:57 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Dr. Franklin

You square speed in the calculation. Mass is secondary.

Kenetic Energy is what it’s all about.


36 posted on 10/30/2025 1:33:41 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Dr. Franklin

Yes no and maybe.

Comparing firearm projectiles to vehicles makes no sense.

Two different means of injury.

A bigger bullet doesn’t always mean more injury. Bullet design has a lot to do with it.


37 posted on 10/30/2025 1:33:49 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: riverrunner
A bigger bullet doesn’t always mean more injury. Bullet design has a lot to do with it.

If I have to shot a bear, I prefer to shoot it with .45 bullet than a BB. Some designs are better than others for that purpose, but the force does matter.
38 posted on 10/30/2025 1:37:52 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: yesthatjallen

Just because one kills something doesn’t mean one hates the thing he kills.

There are plenty of reasons to kill a animal besides hate.

Food is a main one, self preservation is another. money is another.

I find bears to be interesting but I also find them good to eat.

I am sure not going to let one harm me.

Hate has nothing to do with it.


39 posted on 10/30/2025 1:38:24 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Mass is secondary.

So get yourself a BB gun and see how many bears you can kill with that. Let us know how it went.
40 posted on 10/30/2025 1:58:27 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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