[E. Pluribus Unum]

Watched it last night. Main point for me was we have a 61% chance of shooting down an incoming ICBM. It's like "trying to shoot a bullet with a bullet," as one of the characters says.

[marktwain]

“Reducing global arsenals” resulted in WWI and WWII, according to some.

Reducing arsenals emboldened those who sought to gain by war.

[Skywise]

Wow… did I just wake back up in 1985?

Or are the democrats dusting off old talking points.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

“A House of Dynamite” depicts U.S. ground-based interceptors launching and failing to stop the incoming missile.

This supposes that there will be an incoming missile. There will be dozens. If not hundreds. Quoting Laz..."We are so screwed."

[Owen]

61% is absurdly optimistic, no doubt quoted from a contractor who constructed a CDR acceptance test to be successful.

I have not seen the film. I presume the incoming missile was not MIRVed? The trailers look absurd.

There is no defense against ICBMs. There is even less defense against SLBMs. We park 80% of our warheads on subs for this reason. The Russkies park 60%. They can be more flexible because their ICBMs are mobile and can move and be missed. Ours are in fixed silos.

This is why bombers are largely insignificant for nuclear exchange. The war is over by the time they arrive with their very few warheads.

[aimhigh]

the terrifying 30-minute window

With the new hypersonic missiles, it will be a 15 minute window.

[FreeReign]

Is this the same APS that is pushing the idea of man-made globull warming?

[The Louiswu]

Why do doctors go to ridiculous lengths to save a dying patient, why do athletes bleed and fight to overcome a losing game, why to soldiers fight to the death in lost causes because it’s who we are. We fight, we try and continue to fight even if the odds makers don’t give us much of a chance. To continue to try to defend and develop ways to protect us and others from nuclear weapons is a saintly, heroic gesture, one deserving of much respect and as much support as can be given.

Until the world finds a way to do without nuclear weapons and indeed war itself, we will continue to need people who fight against the odds.

[enumerated]

I watched it too - seems like a rehash of the old unilateral disarmament argument. “We should disarm regardless of our enemies”. “Having a defense is provocative”. Blah, blah, blah.

I say - peace through strength.

And from a pure entertainment standpoint, it was a huge let-down that they didn’t show everything get blown up at the end - I felt like a fool for watching it.

[Larry Lucido]

I am a US senator

Not the flex he thinks it is.

[Judge Bean]

That is why it seems that particle beam weapons or laser weapons like Israel’s Iron Beam, which is operational are the only option. They realized that they cannot afford to spend enough on missiles to defend against missiles or even drones. But a beam weapon uses just a few dollars per shot, and it can fire multiple shots at a reasonable cost, until the target is knocked down.

[pierrem15]

The 61% claim is largely nonsense as the tracking and sensing capability keep improving.

Above all, with thousands of satellites in LEO like Starlink, the early warning capabilities are much higher and possibility of launch phase intercepts much higher.

It depends on the tech and how much money we can spend on it.

Kubrick had fun in Dr. Strangelove mocking Turgeson for saying, "no more than 10, err, 20 million dead Mr. President" if we struck first. But one thing that should never be forgotten is that enemies such as China would be wiling to take 10-20% population loss if the US could simply be annihilated.

The fact that we simply ceded our unparalleled economic and military position after 1991 through the most feckless bipartisan policies imaginable should anger every American.

[MrRelevant]

I liked 50 billion for a coin flip…… fedgov at its finest

[Ronaldus Magnus III]

Just as the democRATS and DemoKKKrats fought hard to “keep slavery alive” the more recent democRATs blocked missile defense every chance they could.

If the Hussein/Biden/Harris Regime had prevailed, they would probably have sent the Patriot Missile Defense systems to Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas.

[rottndog]

No defense system is 100%, and SDI was never intended to be. But if you are in one of the cities that does survive an attack because an incoming nuke is intercepted, you will be more than grateful for the money spent.

Let’s see...$50+billion for SDI...what’s the cost of just one major metropolitan area being hit, let alone several or many? By the numbers, the system pays for itself very quickly in the event of an attack.

[pfflier]

The first storyline flaw I saw was the decision to launch only two interceptors when 80 were available. The system was put into place to prevent a limited rogue attack, just as the movie depicted.

IMO multiple interceptor launches, say 8 staged a few seconds apart, would statistically increase the chance of a kill.

Of course the biggest variable in that strategy would be the possibility of secondary launches from the attacking country. Some interceptors would have to be kept in reserve for that possibility.

All in all, the president should have been much better informed of his retaliation options than portrayed in the movie. It appeared to be the first time he was aware of them.

The female FEMA coordinator for the Chicago area was a bitch in general also unaware of basic protocols for such a situation.

On the plus side, I felt a lot of empathy for the army troops when they realized the intercept had failed.

[Captain Peter Blood]

Actually it’s really even less that that. We only have about 40 Missiles that are even available to try and stop an incoming attack.

If you want to read the full consequences of what happens then read Annie Jacobson’s book that came out in March 2025: Nuclear War: A Scenario

She did a lot of research and talked to people who had been directly involved in nuclear war planning. In reality the President has about a 5 minute window to make a decision whether to launch or not.

Part of the plot in her book was used in the Netflix film, the part where a lone launch of a North Korean missile was the catalysts for all out Nuclear War. The true consequences of Nuclear War are devastating and no one survives in the long term.

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[RckyRaCoCo]

When a Republican is in office...the MSM memo is "fear" (covid will kill us all!)

When a democrap is in office...the MSM memo is "calm" (mostly peaceful rioting)

[03A3]

All this tells me is we should decouple from Europe soon.

[Opinionated Blowhard]

Just enforce the Kellog-Briand Treaty, Ed. Its still on the books.