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As a professor, I’ve seen woke and MAGA censorship. Which is worse?
The Washington Post ^ | 10/18/2025 6:30 a.m. EDT | Crispin Sartwell

Posted on 10/18/2025 11:18:14 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: E. Pluribus Unum

LOL - MAGA censorship doesn’t tell us what to think, but takes away our money!


41 posted on 10/19/2025 6:11:30 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The left censorship: we will fire you, deplatform you, your banks will not give you your money, we will ban you from grocery stores if we don’t jail you or kill you if you express that you noticed the effects of anything we’re doing. Also, we’re going to rape and mutilate your kids.

The right censorship: Stop doing that.


42 posted on 10/19/2025 6:15:04 AM PDT by No.6
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To: DoodleBob

Lefties use “what about” claims far more often. They prefer to avoid genuine engagement with differing opinions and blurring and evading distinctions by ad hominem attacks is a way to do that.


43 posted on 10/19/2025 6:24:39 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

Sorry. It’s used on FR all the time.

Yeah, well what about when Obama did X..?


44 posted on 10/19/2025 6:32:49 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: Katya

The Trump admin “censorship” is a direct outcome of the statist expansion of Leviathan.

Back in the day, the govt didn’t touch every dimension of life, liberty, and property. Today, Universities are addicted to federal funding of R&D etc - something the Founders likely would abhor, and which (many but not all) conservatives and all libertarians reject.

Trump is effectively telling a heroine addict that they must behave the way he wants, or else he’ll withhold their smack. Clinically, that’s not censorship.

However, if the tables were turned and, say, the govt pulled funding to charities that promoted alternatives to abortion, “conservatives” would light up with righteousness indignation.


45 posted on 10/19/2025 6:35:21 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: PGR88

It proves that Crispin thinks our money is his money and taking it away is unlawful. Congress did not write any law restricting Cristin’s speech. It merely refused to send my money to him to speak.

EC


46 posted on 10/19/2025 6:53:43 AM PDT by Ex-Con777 (Leftists quote the Constitution like an atheist quotes the Bible)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

...and the ‘threat’ of “diversity of opinion” is, somehow, a ‘threat’ to free speech.

Clown show.


47 posted on 10/19/2025 7:14:22 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Trumpian orthodoxy,”

That’s no professor. That is a a liberal propagandist.


48 posted on 10/19/2025 7:29:21 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: DoodleBob

True enough, as a convenient cudgel or as an opening to a larger point, but less so as a matter of philosophy in that Lefties often invent facts to make their “what about” claims work.


49 posted on 10/19/2025 7:33:49 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: enumerated

Hey mister professor. STFU unless you have something FACTUAL to talk about. Sorry your feeling are SO hurt.


50 posted on 10/19/2025 7:35:32 AM PDT by Agatsu77
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To: VRW Conspirator

At all.


51 posted on 10/19/2025 7:36:57 AM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They like federal money but don’t like the expectations that come along with it.


52 posted on 10/19/2025 7:39:43 AM PDT by Ford4000
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What an idiot. Total buffoon. Especially after those astro turfed low turnout protests this weeke.


53 posted on 10/19/2025 8:16:10 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: DoodleBob

Whataboutism is simply another debating technique. Use it when you wish.


54 posted on 10/19/2025 8:32:12 AM PDT by sergeantdave (AI training involves stealing content from creators and not paying them a penny)
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To: Agatsu77

What are you even talking about?

I’m not a professor and my feelings aren’t hurt.

I’m just saying that - as a professor - the author should know that the woke Left censors MAGA, not the other way around.

So it’s a dumb question.


55 posted on 10/19/2025 8:39:04 AM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

and vilifies the work of professors or students in a way that shames or even endangers them


we expose it for what it is. he admits some do experience shame from the exposure. Why are they shamed?

Because they are exposed or they see the truth?


56 posted on 10/19/2025 8:40:06 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: PeterPrinciple
...and vilifies the work of professors or students in a way that shames or even endangers them...

Charlie Kirk enters the chat.

57 posted on 10/19/2025 10:21:19 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Je suis Charlie Kirk.)
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To: sergeantdave

So is “I know you are, but what am I?”

They’re equally credible.


58 posted on 10/19/2025 10:33:59 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Any political censorship is wrong as it violates the 1st Amendment. Doesn’t matter whether it comes from the right or left. I consider many of Trump’s actions against the Palestinian protesters to be in violation of the 1st Amendment. You’d think after what we had to deal with on the Left with their canceling of people he would know better but apparently he doesn’t. Now when the Left gets back in power and restarts their canceling crusade and we complain about it they will just say well you guys do it too.


59 posted on 10/19/2025 10:44:23 AM PDT by jimwatx
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I consider many of Trump’s actions against the Palestinian protesters to be in violation of the 1st Amendment.

Such as?

60 posted on 10/19/2025 10:45:45 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Je suis Charlie Kirk.)
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