Posted on 10/14/2025 2:05:24 AM PDT by RandFan
@RepThomasMassie
Trump asked dual citizen Miriam Adelson, a billionaire running nasty ads against me in Kentucky, “what do you love more, the United States or Israel?” She refused to answer him. He says that might mean she loves Israel more.
This isn’t AI, it’s real video…
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The US already has too much influence on the activities of citizens abroad (taxation of foreign income, draconian reporting requirements/restrictions on banking, the ability to prosecute US citizens for actions that are legal abroad but violate US laws, etc.).
AIPAC spent $53 million last election. The total the 2 campaigns raised for president alone was 3,000 million. If they could sway much with $53 million, EVERY CAMPAIGN would run to them for advise!
And we get direct benefit from Israel. For example, Iran’s nuke facilities are now gone - and it was ISRAEL that paved the road to them. That was something many of us thought needed doing when I was still in the military under GWB, Jr!
BTW - IIRC, all the money for weapons we give Israel MUST be spent on US weapons.
On top of that, we pay for it by drawing the ire of the Muslim world, who would have no problem with us at all except for our support of the State of Israel.
They love themselves and they love power. They have no love nor loyalty for any country.
“Dual citizenship after age 18 was never allowed.”
Actually, the USA has no say in it. Russia could give citizenship to all Americans tomorrow and we’d all automatically be “Dual Citizens”.
My sister was born in Germany while my Dad was stationed there after WW2. She is a US citizen. I think she is still considered eligible for German citizenship - maybe, maybe not. Each country’s rules are different.
But no one in the USA was forced to renounce citizenship elsewhere. Heck, we have foreign citizens IN THE MILITARY.
[This completely ignores the theory that America is only enemies with Muslims because we are allies with Israel. Muslims in general might not have any beef with the US if we weren’t propping up their mortal enemy.
The elite who control the Israeli State hate Christians just as much as they hate Muslims, they just have to pretend for the time being as America is the only reason they still exist as a state.]
This is a really interesting post about what CIA will do with the Adelson info Trump just revealed
<><>Trump asked a “classified question”.....and he did it in public.
<><>Miriam Adelson isn’t just “a billionaire donor.”
<><>She holds an inactive clearance from what’s called **US-ISRAEL Joint Intel Exchange**
<><>this is tied to a data-sharing deal called *Project Olive.*
<><>Every person in that program must pass a “dual loyalty stress test” —
<><>the test is a controlled provocation to gauge allegiance signals.
<><>Ergo, Trump’s line, *“What do you love more?” wasn’t random banter.
<><>It mirrored the internal phrasing used by JSOC handlers
<><>used during loyalty simulations for “dual-nation” operatives.
<><>When Adelson refused to answer, she failed the script.
<><>And someone at Langley just checked a box that’ll echo through Tel Aviv before dawn.
Source: https://x.com/LucienWolfe111/status/1977957405599162527
Your ridiculous lefty attack on America that was so silly and nasty was about 2 Americans, one of them the 48th richest person on earth
“There’s a bad predicate to your question. AIPAC does not receive any foreign funding, from nations or individuals.”
“I really can’t find that predicate in my post”
Right here:
“ Can you name another nation that has lobbyist groups”
“ Do these countries allow lobbyist for the United States into their government councils? I bet they don’t.”
Just sticking with Israel, yes it does. They are currently authorized by the Lobbyist Law of 2008.
I know this because I actually had to register because I worked for an American oil company (in a technical position) and met with Israeli government officials regarding a drilling concession. Had to wear a lanyard when I was in the Knesset or a government building.
In Israel, it’s mainly defense contractors either looking to sell, or, more often looking to buy, restricted Israeli technology, generally related to drones (the Reaper, in particular, is heavily dependent on Israeli tech). But also things like the helmet targeting systems for F35s and F22s.
The following is blatantly anti-Semitic——do not read if you are a dual citizen.
The United States has evidence that Israel has conducted espionage against it, including
<><>the Jonathan Pollard case in the 1980s,
<><>Israel selling U.S. technology to China in 2000,
<><>the arrest of Aipac lobbyists in 2007 for passing classified information,
<><>and the discovery of spy devices near the White House in 2019.
Despite a “strong alliance,” marked by our “greatest Mideast ally,” Israel, getting US taxpayer billions, these incidents have caused significant diplomatic strain.
Notable cases of Israeli espionage against the U.S.
<><>Jonathan Pollard (1985):
A U.S. Navy analyst who provided thousands of top-secret documents to Israel.
<><>Technology Transfer (2000):
Israel was found to have sold sensitive U.S. technology to China.
<><>Aopac Members arrested(2007):
Two members of the pro-Israel lobbying group Aipac were arrested for passing classified information to Israeli diplomats.
<><>White House Spy Devices (2019):
A report revealed that Israel had allegedly planted surveillance devices, like Stingrays, near the White House and other sensitive locations in Washington.
These acts of espionage damage the “close relationship,” best defined by Israel putting the touch on US taxpayers for billions of tax dollars......and has been met with concern from US officials, despite the usual “official denials” from Israel when caught with its pants down.
Some officials believe the risk of Israeli spying on the U.S. is significant.
“ America is only enemies with Muslims because we are allies with Israel.”
ROFLMAO. You don’t really believe this, do you?
Having spent more than my share of time in Iraq and Afghanistan in uniform and Saudi, UAE, and Qatar in the oilfield, I can assure you they hate us because: (1) were not Muslim; (2) we’re (generally) free; (3) we’re not Persian or Arab; and (4) we have not submitted to their rule and have things they want.
Israel is largely just an excuse.
AIPAC also has unlimited access to the billions US taxpayers deposit in Israeli coffers that are available here......... and there.
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Key sources of AIPAC funding include:
Individual donors and philanthropists: AIPAC receives major contributions from wealthy individuals in various industries, including finance, technology, and real estate. For example, in the last year, multiple billionaires have made seven-figure donations to AIPAC's affiliated super PAC, the United Democracy Project (UDP).
Political action committees (PACs): AIPAC operates its own PACs, such as AIPAC PAC and UDP, which receive large sums from individual donors.
These funds are then spent on elections to support Democrats...... or oppose candidates-- based on their stance on the US-Israel relationship.
Organizations: Some foundations and nonprofits also contribute to AIPAC and its related organizations, including the American Israel Education Fund (AIEF), which funds trips to Israel for members of Congress.
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AIPAC uses its funding for various activities, including: Campaign spending: In recent years, AIPAC has significantly increased its spending on elections through its PACs, aiming to influence the outcome of races, particularly Democratic primaries. In the 2023–2024 election cycle, its PAC and super PAC spent nearly $126.9 million.
Lobbying: AIPAC lobbies the legislative and executive branches of the U.S. government on issues related to the US-Israel relationship.
"Educational' trips: AIPAC's affiliate, the American Israel Education Foundation, funds and organizes educational trips to Israel for members of Congress and their staff.
“ Can you name another nation that has lobbyist groups”
I see where you get that. But in my mind there are countless lobbyists in Washington that do not get government support from any government. You probably did not get Federal government support while in Israel.
Or how about:
1954 Operation Susannah — CIA tracked Israeli agents in Egypt and provided intel to Egypt to catch Israeli agents in Eqypt. Israeli agents caught and executed.
1950s-60s — CIA ran aerial recon on Dimona nuclear reactor. Agents poised as tourists or diplomats to gather soil samples. Plans for reactor stolen.
1970s-present — constant SIGNAT monitoring of Israeli officials. Many CIA listening devices located over the years, Hebrew linguists exposed.
Operation Sphinx: US Spy Ring in Israel (1982–1985) In the early 1980s, the US CIA operated a covert network of Israeli informants to gather intelligence on Israel’s military capabilities and political decisions, particularly during the Lebanon War. The operation involved recruiting high-level Israeli officials and using electronic surveillance. It was exposed in 1985 when Israeli counterintelligence arrested several US-recruited agents, including an Israeli Air Force officer.
PROMIS Software Espionage (1980s)The US allegedly modified the PROMIS database software (developed by Inslaw Inc.) before selling it to Israel in the early 1980s. The modifications included a “backdoor” allowing US intelligence (CIA and NSA) to access Israeli databases tracking arms deals, terrorist networks, and military logistics remotely.
2005-10 Stuxnet Cyber Espionage Operation. During the cooperation on Stuxnet, the CIA and NSA conducted parallel surveillance on Israel’s own nuclear facilities (e.g., Dimona)
Operation Blarney (2000-2010) Snowden documents revealed (NSA) routinely intercepted Israeli leaders’ communications, including those of Prime Ministers Ehud Olmert and Benjamin Netanyahu. The program involved wiretapping phone calls and emails to monitor Israel’s policies on Iran, Palestine, and arms sales. A 2009 incident highlighted NSA tracking of Netanyahu’s discussions with US officials.
2014 Drone and Satellite Surveillance of Israeli Military Operations (Ongoing)
Details: US reconnaissance drones and satellites have provided real-time imagery to Israel during operations like Protective Edge (2014), but declassified reports show the US simultaneously conducted independent surveillance on Israeli troop movements and airstrike targeting to assess compliance with international law and US aid conditions. This dual-use intelligence gathering effectively spied on Israeli tactics.
2015 — NSA exposed as having swept up Netayahu’s and aides’ communications with USA Congressmen to expose lobbying efforts against Obama’s Iran deal.
2023 -— NSA hired Hebrew speakers to intercept Israeli military communications to warn Iran in the event of first strike by Israel.
2023 USA exposed (on Discord, ironically) as tracking and exposing Israeli preparation for defensive measures against Iranian attack
Post 10/7/24 — Biden NSA/CIA surveillance of Israeli government deliberations over Gaza and escalation with Hezbollah/Iran
October 2024, highly classified US intelligence documents detailing Israel’s military preparations in minute detail for a retaliatory attack on Iran gathered by extensive NSA, NGA, and human intelligence were leaked online in an effort TO WARN IRAN and prevent an attack.
So, it’s like the NRA or any other American one-issue lobbying group.
Now do Pfizer.
“I see where you get that. But in my mind there are countless lobbyists in Washington that do not get government support from any government. You probably did not get Federal government support while in Israel.”
AIPAC doesn’t get Israeli government support.
Now, anti-Israeli lobby groups (from Qatar, Saudi, Kuwait) absolutely get government money. Quite open about it.
This guy Massie is a vile Nazi, he is the only one who routinely votes with Ilan omar, rashida etc.
We should love our own country more.
I guarantee you that Trump loves this country more.
There are good reasons Israel is our ally and it is of historical and spiritual significance. But, any patriotic American should put the well being of this country of this country ahead of any other.
Do you think Trump is a Jew hater for asking the question? He was clearly taking a jab at Adelson.
No, the bigger point is why did Trump decide to take a jab Adelson by asking the question?
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