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To: srmanuel

I don’t think caffeine in moderation is bad.

There are groups in the US that attempt to pound this caffeine is unhealthy narrative, but it’s garbage.

Same with booze in moderation.

Heck, as my grandmother was dying from CHF the doctor more or less told us (off line) that a glass of champagne in the morning (like a Mimosa) will help her.

There are a lot of things where certain groups, that because of their “belief” cultural or religious push certain things which aren’t really proven or science based: pork (Jews and Muslims), shellfish (Jews), caffeine (Mormons), meat et al. (All these vegetarian types), alcohol (Muslims, 7-day, some Baptists)...

Many of these groups pretend as if their self imposed dietary restrictions are somehow healthy, environmental, ethical (the animal cruelty angle) and there is a science backing it up according to them.

Often this spills over into the mainstream, as Kosher did years past, or they try to push it as a lot of the vegetarian nonsense until just recently, with even the WHO getting behind it (they pushed a health and climate change argument).

Regards climate change and cattle. My second wife comes from a family of ranchers. They have 200 cows among other animals. I learned a lot from them regards all this sustainable and climate argument. It’s 100% Bullshit.

Do you think they put the cows on ground where you could be raising crops and making money? Nope.

Guess what cows do as they walk around and crap a massive amount BTW, on soil that isn’t all that ideal for growing things? Guess what cow poop is good at doing?

The arguments they feed people appeal to ignorance but once you start looking into it, it’s not at all like they claim.

Enjoy your pink tender steak.

It’s not bad for you in moderation, it doesn’t reduce the crop production nor does it produce a lot of CO2, bla bla bla. They “create the science” to justify what is a forgone conclusion based on some philosophy they embrace.


15 posted on 10/11/2025 2:19:34 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6

I agree with you about things being in moderation, the reason I brought up coffee is before my surgery I had to give up everything with caffein, coffee, soft drinks, tea, because it made me dizzy and my blood pressure would shoot up.

My open-heart surgery was to replace my aortic valve and repair an aneurysm in the ascending aorta. Given how caffein affects me, I thought the last they I would be served is something that could shoot up my blood pressure.


20 posted on 10/11/2025 2:41:56 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Red6
They “create the science” to justify what is a forgone conclusion based on some philosophy they embrace.

Monty Python on the "scientific" method

22 posted on 10/11/2025 2:52:22 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Red6

> I don’t think caffeine in moderation is bad. <

I read an article by some doctor the other day about coffee. He said four cups of black coffee every day is good for you.

Here’s what Johns Hopkins has to say:

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/9-reasons-why-the-right-amount-of-coffee-is-good-for-you


42 posted on 10/11/2025 4:10:41 AM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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To: Red6

… My second wife comes from a family of ranchers. ..


Why not just say “My wife”?? 🤔


59 posted on 10/11/2025 5:20:58 AM PDT by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: Red6
There are a lot of things where certain groups, that because of their “belief” cultural or religious push certain things which aren’t really proven or science based: pork alcohol (some Baptists)...

As a Pastor, I preach against alcohol because there is really no one in this day and age who can drink the stuff produced by that industry without becoming addicted. The "alcohol" they produced in the bible years is NOT anything like what is drunk now.

And as priests of our King, Jesus, we should never be drunk so that we can always give an account for the hope that is within us.
60 posted on 10/11/2025 5:22:34 AM PDT by wbarmy (Trying to do better.)
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To: Red6

Both my maternal and paternal grandparents were farmers. I grew up outside a small town in Oklahoma . My stepfather owned a feed store and custom blended fertilizer.
The rancher farmers would run hot wires around a corn field after harvest. Then turn the cattle out to feed on the corn stubble and fertilizer the field.
They would also graze cattle on the bean fields to a point, then take them off and let the soybean mature.
I spent a lot of my youth cleaning and bagging seed for the local farmers.
Monsanto changed all of that.


65 posted on 10/11/2025 5:42:54 AM PDT by Iceclimber58
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To: Red6

Are you saying God doesn’t know what he’s doing? He’s the one who created, and he knows what’s good for food and what isn’t (regardimg Jewish prohibitions).

Plant based foods are mostly soy. Yuck.


134 posted on 10/11/2025 10:47:04 AM PDT by PrairieLady2 (USA: Land of the free, Because of the Brave.)
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