GROK AI confirms President Trump's statements that the US no longer provides funds to Ukraine. All funds spent now are from prior Congressional Appropriations - no new ones planned

October 1, 2025 | GROK AI

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Everytime Trump explains the US is not funding the war and is in fact making money selling weapons to NATO, there are posts on FR insisting that isn't true. GROK AI confirms that money spent now is from Biden era Congressional Appropriations and no new Appropriations are in the works. Of course, President Trump has been telling the truth to the American people and world leaders.

NATO and the MSM choose to spin the news as if Trump is party to their proxy war against Russia just as Biden's regime once was an active participant and largest funder (tax payer funds).

NATO is broke, afraid of Russia now that Trump's administration warned that the US will not support Article V (mutual defense) in Ukraine, and has allowed its militaries to atrophy.

At this time, I believe Trump's decision to sell arms to NATO will drive them to rearm NATO nations first, and give Ukraine old equipment, which is what they have largely been doing throughout the war.

Now NATO is on the hook for all Ukrainian military spending. Zelensky told the G7 leaders he needed $40 billion annually in budgetary support (gov officials' salaries, pensions emergency services) from them and included the US in his statement (below).

The appeal was made publicly during a G7 special meeting in Kananaskis, Canada, on June 17, 2025, amid ongoing discussions about Ukraine's economic resilience in the war against Russia.

Key Details from Zelensky's Statement

• Exact Quote: "It’s crucial to have $40 billion annually in budgetary support for Ukraine – to ensure our resilience and the ability of our country to carry on. This should be a joint decision by G7 leaders, including the U.S."

President Trump has said that there are entire cities in Ukraine without a single standing building, and that this was a 110 year reconstruction effort. NATO is on the hook for reconstruction. That's why NATO is trying to start a war in Ukraine - they still need the US back in the arena to pay for this and to fight their war for them.

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Ukraine PING

[mass55th]

So nice knowing we’re still be ripped off by President Auto-Pen.

[Nextrush]

Europe will be deciding on tapping into hundreds of billions of dollars in frozen Russian assets in the coming days to fund the war on their end.

[nickcarraway]

When are we ever going to find out how much money actually went to Ukraine? Manchin nixed Biden’s funding, so he was skimming most of that money for his domestic budget. When are we going to stop giving all this money to russia?

[E. Pluribus Unum]

mucusmaxillary is deeply saddened.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Great news!

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In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled GROK AI confirms President Trump's statements that the US no longer provides funds to Ukraine. All funds spent now are from prior Congressional Appropriations - no new ones planned, nickcarraway wrote:

When are we ever going to find out how much money actually went to Ukraine? Manchin nixed Biden’s funding, so he was skimming most of that money for his domestic budget. When are we going to stop giving all this money to russia?

 It looks like Trump stopped the disbursement of Biden military spending - some money was already in NATO/Z hands. I think Trump would allow disbursements of Biden funds to protect civilians (defensive-air defense) but I don't know that he's allowed any 'draw downs' (requests made to our military to which is attached a cost equivalent. Not pallets of cash, but draw downs of US military spending. 

Trump said the US provide $350 billion to Ukraine, and he may have been counting the funneling of funds through USAID and other corrupt NGO's rerouting gov funds. Before Trump said that, the value was placed in the $185 billion range in appropriations from Congress. Now NATO and MSM are implying Trump lied about the $350 billion.

Elon Musk found that the US Treasury had withdrawals of billions without any annotation of who took it and for what purpose. That likely included Ukraine. And then DARPA Black Ops doesn't have to report spending to Congress. So we'll never know the true amount.

Trump did stop it.  Just requiring authorization and standard information on Treasury disbursements stopped some of it. Trump cut the USAID and has the power to stop the DARPA funding too.

NATO is trying to imply US is active because they are trying to start a war and if Trump doesn't 'help' fight it for them, NATO will claim the US ran for cover and wouldn't live up to its obligations. That's why the MSM and G7 talking heads stress that "Trump sent more weapons to Ukraine!"

In reality, NATO is broke, can't spend enough to be fair in NATO funding, and now must provide Humanitarian aid, budgetary aid, military aid, and reconstruction funds in Ukraine. LEFT HOLDING THE BAG for the proxy war they started with the help of the Clintons and US STate Department.

This is why I'm disgusted every time Zelensky says he can fight to 2030 or something like that. Still wants to keep fighting. It's fine for him as he's not paying for it and he's not dying for it. If others fight/die/pay for it, Zelensky will drag this war out forever.

 

 

[9YearLurker]

Um, except we’ve got NATO making major investments, with the US a major funder of NATO.

[nickcarraway]

I noticed you totally absolved Biden of his theft.

[MinorityRepublican]

A "big deal" for Ukraine: On July 14, 2025, Trump and Rutte announced an agreement in which NATO allies would purchase U.S. military equipment, such as Patriot missiles, and supply it to Ukraine.

[Stingray51]

I think your point is a good one.

There are of course ongoing US operations in support of Ukraine apart from the supply of weapons. Examples: the US fusion center in Weisbaden from which the US military helps Ukraine run the war, the manned and unmanned intelligence flights that provide Ukraine (thru Wiesbaden presumably) the information it needs about targeting and Russian movements; the 150 (?) US military advisors in Ukraine assigned to the State Dept.... Now, how these activities (and perhaps more which are non-public) are being paid for (allocations from existing budgetary items or old money or whatever), IDK. Oh, and I thought we were giving them fuel also?

Regardless, these costs are likely pretty modest compared to the weapons systems, munitions and direct funding of wages and government functions. So dumping all of that on our so-called allies is a solid accomplishment

[ansel12]

True, there are tons of things we are doing to aid Ukraine against Russia, as far as someone else picking up the tab for the weapons, or anything else they will pay for, the better for us, it frees up money for us and helps pay for the billions we are pumping in to build new factories and refurbish factories to keep the massively increased flow of weapons coming for Ukraine and our allies, and ourselves.

I’m sure that Ukraine and Russia don’t care who absorbs the cost of the weapons, as long as we keep the supply rushing to the front.

[jimwatx]

Why hasn’t he cancelled these funds?

[GOPJ]

ping

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In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled GROK AI confirms President Trump's statements that the US no longer provides funds to Ukraine. All funds spent now are from prior Congressional Appropriations - no new ones planned, 9YearLurker wrote:

Um, except we’ve got NATO making major investments, with the US a major funder of NATO.

Trum has told NATO to step up their spending. Some nations have never come up to 2% funding or don't contribute funds at all. Trump pointed out that the US is doing more than their fair share. NATO is afraid Trump will take America out of the alliance. Why shouldn't we when our 'partners' never maintained military readiness and couldn't come to our aid anyway if we were attacked?

I think the days of America carrying the NATO funding are over - we're showing that by stopping funding in Ukraine since we already gave them $350 billion.

Beyond that, our defense contractors are selling weapons and earning a profit.

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In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled GROK AI confirms President Trump's statements that the US no longer provides funds to Ukraine. All funds spent now are from prior Congressional Appropriations - no new ones planned, jimwatx wrote:

Why hasn’t he cancelled these funds?

 President Trump said he can't cancel funds Congress has apportioned to specific purposes (basically, The People have spoken). That came into play with 'The Wall' funding cuts. But I think he can a) not spend them on anything or b) spend them on defensive weapons.

 

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In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled GROK AI confirms President Trump's statements that the US no longer provides funds to Ukraine. All funds spent now are from prior Congressional Appropriations - no new ones planned, nickcarraway wrote:

I noticed you totally absolved Biden of his theft.

False. Prove me wrong by showing where I wrote that I absolve Biden of his theft.

I've been writing giant posts lately and am doubtful people will read very far so I didn't talk about 10% for the big guy or Burisma, extortion, biolabs, and all his family crimes in Ukraine, nor did I mention Pelosi's, Schumer's, Romney's etc. But I've spend many many hours posting on that topic; I'm trying to teach myself not to put everything I know (Kitchen sink) on a topic because many people do not like reading nearly as much as I do. Not 'going there' but instead noting that Biden gave billions to Ukraine and current services are paid for with Biden era dollars.

[nickcarraway]

Biden gave billions to Ukraine

Do we have proof of that? Most of it was diverted to his domestic agenda?

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In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled GROK AI confirms President Trump's statements that the US no longer provides funds to Ukraine. All funds spent now are from prior Congressional Appropriations - no new ones planned, nickcarraway wrote:

Biden gave billions to Ukraine

Do we have proof of that? Most of it was diverted to his domestic agenda?

Someone was propping up Ukraine and it wasn't the EU. US Taxpayer dollars have propped up the Ukraine, made it look like it has a functiong government and economy, made it look like they could win against a well armed country many times Ukraine's size/population. Then all the propaganda money.

SO I think Biden/Dems used the Ukrainian laundry in many ways. Sure Biden got payola, but I do think he gave Ukraine/NATO money because they are desperate.

The Deep State was going to launch this war on Hillary's watch, but she lost. So they helped steal the 2020 but I don't believe Biden got the much needed access to the nukes in the US arsenal. The plan was to start a proxy war and use US military might to defeat Russia because the Ukraine doesn't have the men, technology, money and neither does NATO have the men or weapons. Their military is defunct and their people inexperienced and woke. The US was supposed to fight and die, giving the globalists Russia and her nuclear arsenal on a platter.

They routed around their problems. Analyst Alexander Mercouris described NATO/Zelensky's tactics since the 2022 start of the proxy war as 'a series of attempts to involve the US in the war.'

All of Zelensky's 'Victory Plans' required the US to enter the war. Failing that, Zelensky keeps 'requiring' the US to provide 'security guarantees' (i.e., US peace keepers ) or else he won't negotiate for peace. If American peace keepers were in Ukraine, false flags would target them to summone the US into the war.

Now NATO is flaily wildly. They do have a false flag set up (posted to FR somewhere) and they are pretending we in the US would be betraying our International Promises if we don't come to their aid once they claim Russia attacked them (at least two hard attempts already - One Nov 15, 2018 was false claims Russia fired a missile into Poland but it was really a Ukrainian missile. The other last month when electronic jamming intentionally drove Russian drones over the border of ...was it Belarus?).

The next bid will be another claim of an attack by Putin. Since America is NOT FUNDING THE WAR anymore, it's important to set the record straight before they demand we 'honor article V' etc.