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To: RummyChick

Obivously the Jews killed Jesus, but what makes matters worse for the Jews is that they cursed themselves for what they had chosen to do on that day, see the Gospel text below. I do not know when that curse will be lifted, and as Christians we do not hold that curse against them.

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21 And the governor answering, said to them: Whether will you of the two to be released unto you? But they said, Barabbas. 22 Pilate saith to them: What shall I do then with Jesus that is called Christ? They say all: Let him be crucified. 23 The governor said to them: Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying: Let him be crucified. 24 And Pilate seeing that he prevailed nothing, but that rather a tumult was made; taking water washed his hands before the people, saying: I am innocent of the blood of this just man; look you to it. 25 And the whole people answering, said: His blood be upon us and our children [Matthew 27:25]

26 Then he released to them Barabbas, and having scourged Jesus, delivered him unto them to be crucified.


174 posted on 09/22/2025 8:34:58 AM PDT by blackpacific
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To: blackpacific
… but what makes matters worse for the Jews is that they cursed themselves for what they had chosen to do on that day, see the Gospel text below. I do not know when that curse will be lifted, and as Christians we do not hold that curse against them.

A very human perspective but theologically and scripturally incorrect;

You should ask yourself “if his blood be upon you and your children.” If not, you and they are not saved.
176 posted on 09/22/2025 8:38:34 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: blackpacific
He already asked the Father to forgive them (and St. Stephen followed His example, as did Erika very powerfully yesterday).

Luke 23:34
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. Lest anyone be confused as for whom he prayed, the Apostle to the Circumcision said in Acts 3:17-18 [17] And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers. [18] But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled. Acts 7 [58] And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul. [59] And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. [60] And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep. And the Apostle to the Gentiles agrees in 1 Corinthians 2:8 and arguably includes Pilate [8] Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. The only thing that matters now is what you do with this knowledge. That is the Good News and that Charlie Kirk’s message.

183 posted on 09/22/2025 9:01:22 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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