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What Charlie Kirk got wrong about Black women [Notre Dame student]
The Observer ^ | 9/16/2025 | Zora Rodgers

Posted on 09/16/2025 8:14:19 AM PDT by simpson96

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To: simpson96

Joy Reid, Mike Obama and Jackson Brown were accepted into Ivy League schools NOT because of their intellect but specifically because of their race. Those universities have long ago removed acceptance rates based on merit. They are all now about spreading Marxist indoctrination and hating Whitey.

None of those “women” are qualified for their roles in the private sector. Brown has demonstrated herself that she is a total incompetent, a glorious nincompoop who does not belong on the Supreme Court.

Zora Rodgers would hate Charlie Kirk regardless of what he said about those three. But what else would you expect from a democrat.


61 posted on 09/16/2025 9:53:02 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: FamiliarFace

They’re twisting Charlie Kirk’s words b/c he’s not here to defend himself.

Fortunately, he has powerful friends like JD Vance who will cover for him.


62 posted on 09/16/2025 10:01:45 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: Organic Panic
"For about as long as America has been alive and colonized, Black women have been devalued, degraded and unfairly depreciated."

She feels good about herself for 'doing her part' (hello, ignorant White Guilt), to 'fix' that.

63 posted on 09/16/2025 10:12:29 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: 7.62mm

Follow the money:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/your-money/norte-dame-muslim-philanthropists.html

Cheers!


64 posted on 09/16/2025 10:12:46 AM PDT by Thunder 6 (Panzer, los geht's!)
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To: Red Badger
“Did he actually says these things or is she making stuff up or just re-bleating the talking points memo?”

Yes and no. Context is everything.

Charlie Kirk publicly commented, following the Supreme Court's June 2023 end to affirmative action in college admissions, that certain prominent Black women—Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, Sheila Jackson Lee, and Ketanji Brown Jackson—had said they personally benefitted from affirmative action. He argued that, had he described these women as beneficiaries, he would be denounced as racist; yet, according to him, they themselves made this admission. Kirk went further, claiming that these specific women were unable to achieve success based solely on their own merit or intelligence, and that affirmative action gave them opportunities that would have otherwise gone to more qualified individuals.

Here's one link to the actual comments if it helps:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOcKFt4AWhY/

The legacy media is distorting his comments as if he went out of his way to attack “black women”.

Here are some more links that may help with context as well:

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/joy-reid-affirmative-action-harvard-supreme-court-rcna92190

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/29/michelle-obama-affirmative-action-00104211

https://x.com/MichelleObama/status/1674430722529169408?lang=en

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rep-sheila-jackson-lee-says-clear-recipient-affirmative-action

I was unable to verify that Ketanji Brown Jackson specifically admitted to benefitting from affirmative action. It's possible he confused that Sotomayor said she benefitted (since she said so as well). But I'll give Kirk the benefit of the doubt. If anyone from the left wanted to correct the record, they could have. Instead, they switched the debate with misleading and outright false claims.

You have to remember that Charlie Kirk and everyone on this forum is automatically racist to the left, and no amount of proof will ever be enough to convince them otherwise.

They could use Charlie Kirk's famous phrase, “Prove me wrong.” But people cannot be proved wrong when they do not believe something based on logic or facts.

65 posted on 09/16/2025 10:15:17 AM PDT by unlearner (I'm tired of being not tired of winning.)
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To: Skwor

> The entire thing starts with the false premise of systematic racism and inherent white supremacy, what utter bilge.

She probably wrote it for a class and got an “A” on it. Or wrote it for the school newspaper web site.


66 posted on 09/16/2025 10:59:08 AM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (Je suis Charlie Kirk!)
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To: simpson96

> “Zora Rodgers is a junior studying film, television, and theatre.

She’s going to make some unlucky man an excruciatingly painful ex-wife.


67 posted on 09/16/2025 11:01:52 AM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (Je suis Charlie Kirk!)
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To: Skwor

Yep. Writing for the student newspaper.

https://www.ndsmcobserver.com/


68 posted on 09/16/2025 11:02:58 AM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (Je suis Charlie Kirk!)
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To: simpson96

“vaguely familiar with Kirk for his controversial right-wing extremist takes” You are vaguely familiar but certain that he was an extremist. Yet you want us to take anything else you said seriously.


69 posted on 09/16/2025 11:30:27 AM PDT by pas
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To: simpson96

“Why was he challenging the intellectual competency of these Black women when they have run educational laps around him?”

There are plenty of highly educated people who are dumb as rocks. As Forest Gump said “Stupid is as stupid does”.


70 posted on 09/16/2025 11:37:39 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The DemocRATic party is a treasonous America hating cult.)
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To: dfwgator

I was rooting for the Convicts.


71 posted on 09/16/2025 12:06:26 PM PDT by ebshumidors ( !)
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To: simpson96

I bet she uses “Latinx” when talking about Mexicans.


72 posted on 09/16/2025 12:12:06 PM PDT by Organic Panic ('Was I molested. I think so' - Ashley Biden in response to her father joining her in the shower. D)
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To: simpson96

Is she a furry too?


73 posted on 09/16/2025 12:47:12 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: simpson96

One of the errors the author makes is when she conflates some difference between having or not having certain academic degrees as representing greater or lessor intellectual ability. In reality, the attainment of academic degrees cannot be consistently conflated with greater intellectual ability; the later can exist without having spent time putting it to the attainment of the former; and the former is a result of often subjective judgement calls of professors, not an empirical intellectual examination, like an IQ test.


74 posted on 09/16/2025 12:51:04 PM PDT by Wuli (uire)
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To: fuzzylogic
Dr. Carol M. Swain s an American political scientist and legal scholar who is a retired professor of political science and law at Vanderbilt University.

Harvard University Press published Swain's first academic book, Black Faces, Black Interests: The Representation of African Americans in Congress in 1993.[9][10][11][12] It received the D.B. Hardeman Prize and the American Political Science Association's Woodrow Wilson Foundation Award.[13] Swain later accused deposed Harvard President Claudine Gay of plagiarizing portions of her book, stating, "Maybe she didn’t know any better, but it would qualify as plagiarism under Harvard’s own rules."[14] In 2024, Swain released A Gay Affair, published by Be the People Books.[15] This book followed Claudine Gay's resignation as President of Harvard on January 2, 2024.
Dr. Swain is the real thing, but the former Harvard President Claudine Gay was a DEI hire.   Do you see what we are talking about Zora Rodgers?
75 posted on 09/16/2025 6:19:22 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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