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To: MikelTackNailer; .45 Long Colt; Apple Pan Dowdy; BDParrish; Big Red Badger; BlueDragon; boatbums; ..
I've always been bothered by Christ crying out "Why hast thou forsaken me?" when He was supposed to be down with the plan all along. I write it off to the excruciating torture that is crucifixion overwhelming the physical brain He was subject to and how humans who write things from old memories tend to be fudgy.

What I have heard, which makes a TON of sense, is that since the Jews didn't have the reference system we do for Scripture passages, Jesus couldn't have said *Psalm 22*, so what He did was quoted the first verse of the Psalm which they would have been very familiar with, to draw their attention to the fact that what He was suffering was very specifically prophesied in that psalm and thy could see it being fulfilled before their very eyes: the bones out of joint, His hands and feet pierced, the casting lots for His clothes.....

Psalm 22

In particular, it would be verses 6-18.

25 posted on 09/05/2025 8:52:24 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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To: metmom

Yes, Psalm 22:12-13. Who were the strong bulls of Bashan? Demons? Were they present at the crucifixion?


27 posted on 09/05/2025 9:08:49 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF ISR pilot. We are a family of aviators. )
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To: metmom

From Psalm 22:

6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.

7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,

8 He trusted on the Lord that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.

9 But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother’s breasts.

10 I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother’s belly.

11 Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.

12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.

13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.

14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.

15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.

16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.

17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.

18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.


Yup; young rabbi definitely fulfilled that prophesy for all our sakes. I hope to ask Him cosmic questions, like why more buns than hot dogs and where DO those missing socks go?

Really though, I cannot believe that only one system of worship is “right” and everyone following others are eternally damned because they chose wrong or weren’t exposed to the correct one. Perhaps God looks at the Christadelphians and decides two out of three is close enough. It would be a terrible waste of good souls if we were shut out on technicalities like that.

But I’m a simpleton who thinks God most likely takes aborted babies, wipes off the ordeal and sends them back to more deserving mothers. It’s what I would do.


30 posted on 09/05/2025 10:56:58 PM PDT by MikelTackNailer (They call Obama "the Light Bringer". That was also a synonym for Lucifer.)
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