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To: johnsmom

Nope.

Flight angle is wrong for the impact to the neck.

Does not comport with videos from other angles.

I think it was done with AI, or altered.

Danger, Will Robinson


3,235 posted on 09/14/2025 8:32:43 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Thanks...there is something stinky going on in the FBI re their 12 hour delay relaying info to Kash. 12 hours is plenty of time to scrub evidence, plant evidence, or remove evidence. There is a campus video going around (a parent on scene) from before and after the shooting. It took police forever to get there. Only campus security and one of them sitting on steps doing nothing. I am praying we are not being played. Again.


3,243 posted on 09/14/2025 8:47:32 PM PDT by johnsmom (I must be dreaming 'cause this can't be real)
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To: All; charlie; kirk; grey_whiskers; johnsmom


The video amateur analysis

GW (thanks) must be correct, agree with the bullet flight angle, she and he definitely jerk while dude was jerking hands the whole time, ostensibly in excitement to be there and getting started..

We have our killer with overwhelming evidence and there will be more information to come surrounding it all.
A good find if we were still looking for cause/effect, yet while anon investigators consider all possibilities and potentialities; the weight of evidence and arrest is yet above reproach.

The 'unfortunately timed' hat-tip man is
Frank Turek, Charlies' close friend,
who rushes helplessly around the vehicle they push CK into.

The other with 'guns for arms' is known security team member seen at multiple events.

As to this speculative 'question' posted, let's run the knowns to date...

Incident Analysis: Men Behind Charlie Kirk /shot fired

Analysis of Two Men Behind Charlie Kirk and Shooting Details
AspectFrank TurekUnnamed Security PersonnelBullet Trajectory & Sound Evidence
Physical Description~5'10", early 60s, muscular build, white button-up shirt, dark pants, white baseball cap, glasses, short gray hair, clean-shaven, prominent arms.~6'2", muscular frame, black/gray polo, khaki pants, short dark hair, no hat, stern expression, big arms, vigilant posture.Bullet Trajectory:
- Fired from ~200 yards, UVU science building rooftop, ~30 ft elevated.
- Downward-left path (~15° angle), .30-06 soft-point bullet, ~2,500 fps.
- Entered Kirk's right neck (trapezius), lodged in spine, no exit.
- Passed ~10-15 ft over crowd; no ricochet, no body armor.
- Videos show head snap forward/right, confirming rooftop origin.

Sound Evidence:
- Sharp crack (supersonic shockwave) at ~0 sec in clips.
- Muffled bang (muzzle blast) ~0.2-0.4 sec later, no suppressor.
- Crack louder near bullet path; bang echoes off buildings.
- Crowd gasps ~0.5 sec post-crack; single shot confirmed.
- Videos: Side view (head snap, crack-bang sequence); close stage (sharp crack); wide shot (rooftop visible, no on-stage pop).
Identity & RoleChristian apologist, author, podcast host (CrossExamined.org), Kirk's friend/mentor, TPUSA guest speaker.TPUSA-contracted private security (likely Gavin de Becker firm), close protection detail, name withheld for safety.
Actions in Videos1-5 sec pre-shot: Touches cap/ear (sun glare adjustment, not a signal). Post-shot: Flinches, shields Kirk, helps evacuate.1-4 sec pre-shot: Arm cross/elbow tap (routine radio check, not tactical signal). Glances left pre-shot. Post-shot: Draws Glock 19, yells "Down!", covers evacuation.
BackgroundFormer naval officer/pilot, debates and media with Kirk, no security ties. Denied conspiracy claims as "heartbreaking lies."Private contractor, protects VIPs at political rallies (e.g., Trump events). Cleared by FBI/SBI, no charges.
Post-Incident TrajectoryContinues speaking, dedicating events to Kirk. Plans 2026 book tribute to Kirk.Under FBI/SBI debrief. Expected to resume work with enhanced TPUSA protocols.

Notes: Incident occurred 4:15 p.m. MDT, September 10, 2025, at UVU. Shooter: Tyler James Robinson, 22, lone sniper, .30-06 rifle, arrested, no bail. Both men cleared; no evidence of collusion. FBI/SBI confirm single shot, rooftop origin. Conspiracy theories (e.g., hand signals) debunked.

3,256 posted on 09/14/2025 9:08:27 PM PDT by foldspace
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To: grey_whiskers; johnsmom

I agree with G_W; if one does not look closely, AI can do some very realistic looking things.


3,267 posted on 09/14/2025 9:41:23 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((the more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.) )
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