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Moments ago when the news came out that the European leaders were to join Trump and Zelinski in Washington, I published a reply that concluded:

Everything in this visit turns on whether Trump will extend guarantees to Ukraine for a deal that Trump himself has hatched with Putin,

( https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4335053/posts?page=43#43 )

This news, coming out minutes later to the effect that the US will supply "NATO -like" guarantees of the security of Ukraine, means that the deal is very likely to go through. Ukraine will have no practical option but to accept the deal, including loss of territory, because the sovereignty of the nation will be preserved, even if in rump form.

Donald Trump deserves praise for allegedly extending this guarantee that makes peace possible, subject to the observation that this is the guarantee that Zelinski sought in the fateful White House fiasco in which Trump humiliated Zelinski for demanding such a guarantee. Now Trump, if the report is to be believed, is willing to turn about-face and offer the guarantee some months later that might have ended this war then.

One further rather snarky observation is warranted: Trump will now have to reeducate the amen chorus to accept what they had all been conditioned to reject before, an American guarantee.

Since no one else has replied to you, I will say ‘well stated’.

I’m a Trump supporter, but I’m not a yes man. I don’t disagree with much he says or does, but I do think if he had been this firm about guaranteeing security in February, lives would have been saved and Russian war booty for their invasion would have been much less.

And we would be in no different position as to risks of American involvement in a future conflict.

Future conflict is a Russian choice. And we don’t control that, we can only choose to fight or submit.

Ukraine will have no practical option but to accept the deal, including loss of territory, because the sovereignty of the nation will be preserved, even if in rump form.

Yes, little Ukraine will exist in your stated, “rump form.” Nice to see you put that into words.

Donald Trump deserves praise for allegedly extending this guarantee that makes peace possible, subject to the observation that this is the guarantee that Zelinski sought in the fateful White House fiasco in which Trump humiliated Zelinski for demanding such a guarantee.

Little z made himself a jerk and it had nothing to do with such a guarantee. It was Little z’s expectation the US would come in and fight and get his country whole again. We had no guarantee before and he was pressing that he would never compromise on the idea that he would have the US give him his own dang country back. He would never agree to less.

Little Gay Dancer z’s tantrums were disgusting, as was his attire.

But little men do need to compensate, you know.

“NATO -like” guarantees of the security of Ukraine”

Did Russia announce that or is it another Pipe Dream of the Neocons?

“Donald Trump deserves praise for allegedly extending this guarantee that makes peace possible, subject to the observation that this is the guarantee that Zelinski sought in the fateful White House fiasco in which Trump humiliated Zelinski for demanding such a guarantee.”

from Search Assist:

Key Reasons for Trump’s Anger

Accusations of Disrespect

Trump and Vice President JD Vance accused Zelenskyy of being “disrespectful” towards the United States.

They felt Zelenskyy was not adequately grateful for the support Ukraine had received from the U.S. over the years.

Diplomatic Tensions

Zelenskyy challenged Vance’s comments about diplomacy with Russia, arguing that previous U.S. administrations had failed to stop Russian aggression.

Trump reacted strongly to Zelenskyy’s assertion that the U.S. would “feel it in the future” if the war continued, stating, “Don’t tell us what we’re going to feel.”